Shouldn't PSA slab cards they return ungraded as ”altered?”

gregmo32

I got to thinking about this because in my recent order I had a 1971 Topps Terry Bradshaw returned ungraded. It had been recolored on the red borders by some previous owner. Wouldn't it make more sense for PSA to slab the card so that the owner doesn't resell the card as if it were Nm/mt? Since I will not be selling the card anyway, I would rather see it described and entombed.

What do you think?

PaulMaul

Couldn't the unscrupulous submitter just crack it out?

PaulMaul

What would be ideal would be if they could stamp it with "altered." Unfortunately, the card is not their property to deface.

PaulMaul

Though with all the "EOT" results for legit pack fresh cards, the "altered" stamp might ruffle some feathers....

Dnice

I agree with PSA now wanting to put something that's been recolered into one of their holders. If it were my company, I would want only the best in the slabs as well. If PSA did that, everyone would be sending in all their garbage to them and I think as a company, you want to be associated with being the best as far as legitamacy and not be know for putting anything and everything into holders just because someone is paying you to. For that, they might as well put fake signed cards into holders and labeling it unauthentic. That's just my opinion however.

cpettimd

PSA and other TPG will encapsulate higher profile cards as "authentic/altered" You have to request it- and the head grader decides according to PSA CS. Here are 2 examples of cards that I had holdered in that fashion.
The 63 Mantle was undersized. The 86 Fleer Jordan was deemed to be recolored by PSA and BGS(even though I could not see it)

bobbyw8469

Or newspaper clippings Dnice.....oh, wait........

cjaccardi

no that would be to obvious

Dnice

I am NOT a fan of newspaper clippings being graded. I just find that a tad silly.

RipublicaninMass

Have to disagree on the Mantle here. IME cards undersized are given minsizrq and a voucher is given, never once had them label something trimmed which isn't. I do request cards to be holdered if they can't receive a numeric grade, and I like how they seem to be labeling the flip if the card is recolored.

JoeBanzai

<< <i>Have to disagree on the Mantle here. IME cards undersized are given minsizrq and a voucher is given, never once had them label something trimmed which isn't. I do request cards to be holdered if they can't receive a numeric grade, and I like how they seem to be labeling the flip if the card is recolored. >>



PSA decided card was trimmed, not miscut or minsizrq.

I have had cards come back as miscut that were near perfectly centered and resubmitted them and got 8's so the card may not even be trimmed, but that's what the grader(s) determined (that day).

PaulMaul

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PSA decided card was trimmed, not miscut or minsizrq.

I have had cards come back as miscut that were near perfectly centered and resubmitted them and got 8's so the card may not even be trimmed, but that's what the grader(s) determined (that day). >>



In my experience, "miscut" is totally subjective. Every one I've re-subbed has been graded. Min Size seems a little more objective, I haven't re-subbed any of those.