The 5th edition of the Overton book ...

astrorat

... will be out by late January or sometime in February 2014. Just received the news from Don Parsley and thought I would share.

LoveMyLiberty

Would you happen to know what improvements were
made over the 3rd edition and will there be larger &
more specific images for attributions?
Thank you for the info.

astrorat

<< <i>Would you happen to know what improvements were
made over the 3rd edition and will there be larger &
more specific images for attributions?
Thank you for the info. >>

The sole extent of what I know is posted in the OP. I wish I knew more about the changes in the 5th edition, but I do not at this time.

BustHalfBrian

I fear that this release will drive up Bust half prices, as if they could rise any higher than they already have.

Either way, I'm excited to see what new info this 5th edition will offer. Do you happen to have a link to the OP?

OKbustchaser

Just got this from Sheridan Downey...


<<A NEW OVERTON EDITION!

Last week I received a News Release from Don Parsley. He has been working on a revised 5th edition of his father-in-law’s standard reference work. Publication is expected at the end of January. His retail price is $85 per copy. No one I’ve talked with was aware of Don’s effort. Don invited booksellers to order multiple copies at discounted prices. If enough of you indicate your intention to purchase the new book I will take advantage of Don’s wholesale pricing and pass along the discount to you. (No commitment needed at this point, just an indication of interest.) The News Release says that rarity ratings have been revised, that the photos are twice actual coin size and are printed on “white coated paper.” I do not know whether the photos are the same as in previous editions but I’m guessing that to be the case. If you have questions about the upcoming revision please let me know. I will pass along your inquiries to Don.>>

astrorat

From Don ... "There are many changes to condition census, rarities, and some die state changes throughout."

Brian - I don't see the new addition driving up prices. Usually it's only specialists who pay attention to new additions of a series-specific book. Weird price increases occur when a coin is added to the Red Book and then "instantly" collectors clamor to add the new delicacy to their "Red Book" sets.

mozin

<< <i>From Don ... "There are many changes to condition census, rarities, and some die state changes throughout."

Brian - I don't see the new addition driving up prices. Usually it's only specialists who pay attention to new additions of a series-specific book. Weird price increases occur when a coin is added to the Red Book and then "instantly" collectors clamor to add the new delicacy to their "Red Book" sets. >>




I agree with Astrorat. Best we not get too excited about the fifth edition, until Nuts look it over letter by letter, number by number, etc. For me, the most important thing in the fifth would be far better coin pictures. We will wait and see.

MsMorrisine

Is his list of errata to be corrected the same as everyone else's?

No offense intended, but new editions are prime time to correct things...

astrorat

<< <i>Is his list of errata to be corrected the same as everyone else's?

No offense intended, but new editions are prime time to correct things... >>

One would expect that the errata would be the FIRST thing attacked in the newest edition.

Baley

were the errors in the 3rd edition corrected in the 4th? were there new errors in the 4th edition that were not in the 3rd?

JRocco

Hey guys,
Thanks for the heads up on this info.
I will be interested in obtaining the next edition bustchaser, especially if the pics are larger as my eyes are getting older.

harveypb

I believe there were more errors in the 4th edition and many BHNC'ers went back to using the 3rd edition. I hope the 5th edition
has much less errors or BHNC'ers will continue to use the 3rd edition...

MsMorrisine

I was suggesting comparing notes with the author.

Bodin

I'm in, I'd like to finally own one.

messydesk

I'd be interetsed if and only if it's completely up to date and accurate. I don't want to trade one pile of errata for another equally large.

TPRC

<< <i>I believe there were more errors in the 4th edition and many BHNC'ers went back to using the 3rd edition. I hope the 5th edition
has much less errors or BHNC'ers will continue to use the 3rd edition... >>



+1....the reason I'll be looking forward to the 5th edition. It's bound to be a big improvement.

astrorat

<< <i>I believe there were more errors in the 4th edition and many BHNC'ers went back to using the 3rd edition. I hope the 5th edition
has much less errors or BHNC'ers will continue to use the 3rd edition... >>

Most of the folks I have talked with prefer the 3rd edition because the images are better than the those in the 4th. The large errata in the 4th edition, of course, certainly doesn't help.

OKbustchaser

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<< <i>I believe there were more errors in the 4th edition and many BHNC'ers went back to using the 3rd edition. I hope the 5th edition
has much less errors or BHNC'ers will continue to use the 3rd edition... >>

Most of the folks I have talked with prefer the 3rd edition because the images are better than the those in the 4th. The large errata in the 4th edition, of course, certainly doesn't help. >>



There were every bit as many errors in the 3rd edition. The 3rd, however, (as stated above) had better images. Plus, the 3rd edition didn't try to imply that it was written by Don Paisley rather than simply edited by him as the 4th edition does. This, not the errors, is the reason that I personally don't use the 4th






Yes, I know that I have a few quirks.

johnny9434

now the waiting game begins. we shall see

messydesk

<< <i>... It's bound to be a big improvement. >>


Oh, yeah, and the binding needs to be high quality. I don't want pages falling out from light use.

sparky64

Any idea or guess as to how much this new edition will cost?

Baley

<< <i>Plus, the 3rd edition didn't try to imply that it was written by Don Paisley rather than simply edited by him as the 4th edition does. This, not the errors, is the reason that I personally don't use the 4th >>



You're not alone in that. If the 5th edition does not have the Overton authorship restored, I'll not be buying, regardless of any other redeeming features.

astrorat

<< <i>Any idea or guess as to how much this new edition will cost? >>

Pricing is in the fifth post.

sparky64

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<< <i>Any idea or guess as to how much this new edition will cost? >>

Pricing is in the fifth post. >>


Dang, I hate when that happens.
Thanks.

Nysoto

I own the first three editions of Overton, did not buy the fourth. If the pictures are improved, and the errors of the 4th edition are corrected, it will be worth buying. There are two new die marriages not listed in the 4th that need to be included.

The book could be much better if Parlsey would collaborate with experts in the series before it is released, which was apparently not done according to Sheridan's note.

coin22lover

bump

Where can we get a copy the day it is released?

lava

<< <i>I own the first three editions of Overton, did not buy the fourth. If the pictures are improved, and the errors of the 4th edition are corrected, it will be worth buying. There are two new die marriages not listed in the 4th that need to be included.

The book could be much better if Parlsey would collaborate with experts in the series before it is released, which was apparently not done according to Sheridan's note. >>



Agreed. The 3rd edition is still the bar to be beat. I'd like to see more than 1 example of each variety, and I know that is asking a lot, but I can get that from the internet sites like Heritage, or Coin Zip. Even better would be examples of both early states and late states of each variety. A collaboration is really needed to get these images, and the BHNC fits the bill.

lkeigwin

<< <i>

<< <i>... It's bound to be a big improvement. >>


Oh, yeah, and the binding needs to be high quality. I don't want pages falling out from light use. >>

LOL. If it's bound to be an improvement you won't have that problem.

I spent hours updating my 4th edition with all the errata from the BHNC. If the 5th edition includes the errata I'll buy the book.
Lance.

hchcoin

<< <i>I agree with Astrorat. Best we not get too excited about the fifth edition, until Nuts look it over letter by letter, number by number, etc. For me, the most important thing in the fifth would be far better coin pictures. We will wait and see. >>

mozin

I would like to know who all the contributors were, to the changes to make the FIFTH Parsley book. Last time, the fourth, the acknowledgements included Sheridan Downey, and the Bust Half Nut Club Membership, whatever that meant. Where is it in this fourth edition that Sheridan Downey contributed? Where is it in this fourth book that the Bust Half Dollar Nut Club contributed? With all the corrections and additions the Bust Half Dollar Nut Club found to make, after the fourth edition was published, the Nut Club contribution to the fourth edition must have been minimal. The Nut Club wanted the emission order to be listed for all the marriages, and this contributed to most of the items listed in the errata for the fourth edition, but certainly not all listed in the errata. The emission order is readily available, and it is considered important by the Bust Half Nut Club membership.

Some changes, we serious Bust Half Dollar collectors want, have already been mentioned by other CU members in this thread. I would like to see the book only cover Capped Bust Half Dollars. The fourth edition is simply too large to handle. A separate book for the earlier series would be fine with me. I don't need it.

coin22lover

Any updates?

CyStater

maibockaddict

Early April...

CyStater

Thank you.