Finally found one: a 1970 Topps baseball rack pack!
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Finally picked this rack up from a fellow collector, after searching quite a while for a rack to replace the one I had sold several years back. 1970 racks are tough to come by, and a number of the ones you see out there for sale are also questionable, so I was very pleased to acquire this one from Chris Muccio. It is a 5th series rack (Aaron series) and as an added bonus, HOFer Bob Gibson is on back. For those not aware, Chris is a long-time collector of unopened Topps product from the 1970s, a past contributor to SCD, and the author of the e-book "The Ultimate Guide to Collecting 1970 Baseball Cards," the definitive guide on anything pertaining to unopened 1970 Topps baseball product and product codes. Here is a link to the book. I highly recommend it, as it has a lot of very useful and valuable info on 1970 Topps baseball unopened:
Guide to 1970 Baseball Cards
Guide to 1970 Baseball Cards
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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Dave
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Cool rack, Tim!!
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Jeff
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Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Jeff
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>She's a beaut! Now let's see what's inside it! >>
Let's just say that after talking with the Great Carnac, the idea of opening it at least crossed me mind.
But then I channeled my inner cpamike and resisted the rip devil (for now, lol)..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>She's a beaut! Now let's see what's inside it! >>
Let's just say that after talking with the Great Carnac, the idea of opening it at least crossed me mind.
But then I channeled my inner cpamike and resisted the rip devil (for now, lol).. >>
The Great Carnac can be a game changer with his insight. I wouldn't hold it against you if you opened it - but I understand socking it away if it's one you've been on the hunt for.
Jeff
Awesome pickup. The condition looks great. I've never owned a vintage rack. Is there a predetermined order in which you have a reasonable guess in what's under the top cards?
Are you gonna keep it in that holder?
Interesting book you're talking about. It's like certain individuals who have excellent blogs with loads of fun info on cards - like The Topps Archives.
My big goal for 2014 is to find a new variation to my sheet music collection - you're on a great start!
Bosox1976
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<< <i>She's a beaut! Now let's see what's inside it! >>
Let's just say that after talking with the Great Carnac, the idea of opening it at least crossed me mind.
But then I channeled my inner cpamike and resisted the rip devil (for now, lol).. >>
Carnac can't predict centering
Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972
what to expect generally throughout the rack as the cards in each cell of the rack USUALLY came from the same
sheet (so if the top card is cut OC it is likely that most of the cards from that same sheet were also cut similarly).
As for what you are likely to find in each cell, you dont necessarily have to open it to know what is likely to be
inside. There are images available of uncut series 5 1970 Topps sheets that give you 95% of what you need to
know. Although they did not put the cards in the rack in the same order as they appear on the sheet, they did
seem to get a reasonably consistent sequencing in racks and cellos based on the way the cards were collated
after being cut.
Series 5 contained 87 cards, hence you will see one side of the sheet with 43 cards (plus a series 4 checklist)
and the other side of the sheet with 44 cards). These patterns are repeated 3 times each on the sheets halves.
The cell in the middle showing Ken Harrelson comes from the sheet half with the F Robinson AS, Alou AS, McDowell AS,
Marichal AS, and McLain AS. It also has the Corrales, Kekich, Fingers, Oliva and Horton cards (plus the series 4 and 5 checklists).
The other two cells come from the other sheet half containing the Yaz AS, Aaron AS, Bench AS, Freehan AS and Koosman AS.
It also has the Stargell, Aaron, and Gibson. With the exception of the Freehan and Gibson these are ALL some serious low pops
in high grade. That is some SERIOUS temptation indeed.
Given that the highest quality raw cards from unopened tend to come from racks, I am kind of happy to know that this rack fell into Tim's
hands. As legitimate 1970 racks have become tougher and tougher to find in the past few years, I for one am pleased to know that this
one has a good chance of surviving intact.
Dave
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1980-1989 Cello Packs - Rookies
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
Thanks that's exactly what I was asking. So, oh the temptation. Nice problem to have
Thanks, David, too, for the insightful analysis on the rack--Carnac had me wavering for a moment, but as you indicated, this rack is remaining sealed!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I've been in your shoes before. I actually have an unopened series 5 rack right now, but it's 2 cells from the lesser half
of the sheet and 1 cell from the premium side. I also have a few other racks from 1970 from other series which are not
being opened.
However, a few years back I was the person who picked up the series 5 rack BBCE had with the Yaz AS showing. It was
purchased to opened (as I had other 1970 series 5 racks already). I pulled most of the big cards, but the centering was
not the best. The Aaron AS I pulled I still have raw, and it's likely an 8. The Bench AS was a Gem Mint if it wasn't 99:1 OC L/R.
I pulled two Yaz ASs (one came back as PSA 8, the other was OC).
I'll admit I enjoyed the rip, but the value was more in the joy of re-visiting my youth than in pulling valuable gems.
For what it's worth based on my rip, my knowledge of what the sheet layouts are and what I know of the collation sequences
I think the two cells you have from the superior half of the sheet would probably yield less of the AS power. My best guess is
you would see the Koosman AS, Stargell, Aaron, Gibson and probably also the Pena (which is a really tough high grade card).
And if you decide you want to rip it, give me a call and I'll try to talk you out of it.
Dave
<< <i>And if you decide you want to rip it, give me a call and I'll try to talk you out of it.
Just call me up and I'll do an intervention.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
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<< <i>And if you decide you want to rip it, give me a call and I'll try to talk you out of it.
Just call me up and I'll do an intervention.
Hi Mike, I was more thinking that if Tim decided he wanted to rip it I would make him a generous cash offer
for the rack that would be more tempting.
Dave
Great pick up!
<< <i>I wish psa graded racks encased in big strong holders. I wouldn't collect them, but Tim's would be much safer. >>
He can always send it over to my place. It will be as safe as can be here.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>
<< <i>She's a beaut! Now let's see what's inside it! >>
Let's just say that after talking with the Great Carnac, the idea of opening it at least crossed me mind.
But then I channeled my inner cpamike and resisted the rip devil (for now, lol).. >>
Great call - I wouldn't rip a rack from 1970. Seems as though cellos are more plentiful (using that term loosely). Beautiful pack! Congrats, Tim!