Phantom tickets that were game issued, i.e. rainout

akuracy503

So how about phantom tickets graded by PSA, game issued, seats printed, come to find out it was a rainout, yet the ticket was torn as if it were used for admission at a later date.

Are these just as good as a regular game used ticket?

Some talk about proof tickets but not much on phantom tickets and what constitutes "phantom".

tkd7

I prefer tickets issued with the actual date of the event. I think those are of greater value.

otwcards

Lots of playoff phantoms are out there. Season ticket subs that issued playoff tickets for games/series that weren't played. Have quite a few as I've always saved them as the teams never requested their return to refund the season account.

Have never checked, but are these also graded? I guess there would not be would be much value except for a small amount on some from championship seasons.

tkd7

The value of phantom tickets isn't great until you get into the 1950's. I've seen a phantom Brooklyn Dodgers WS ticket sell for over $100. I'm guessing the 1964 Phillies WS tickets are probably the most popular phantom ticket. PSA will slab them but I think they are nicer as a panel

Here is one panel that I have

akuracy503

akuracy503

That Panel of Yankee tickets looks great by the way! I'm starting to like the panel variety, rare!

tkd7

<< <i>Here is one from my personal collection, May 8, 1912, my research tells me this was a regularly scheduled game that ended up being a rain out event.
Unfortunately all of the baseball historical reference guides only post the actual games played as the "schedule". Thus this game is never referenced in a "schedule" for 1912.

The big question is why it was torn as if it were used, It seems as it could have been used to enter the gates on May 8th, then a rainout occured before the game was official?
Or it was used the next day? or future date that was never documented as a make up game.

There are only 7 other 1912 Fenway Park/Red Sox tickets in the PSA pop report, none from the May 8th event.
This one was slabbed with "Phantom - No game played May 8"

There are many variations of "Phantom" tickets, this variation seems as close to a real game as it gets, thoughts?

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Nice ticket - who knows the history - the box office could have sold it for a completely different game also, I'm guessing for entry tickets, not seat tickets, the box office could decide - "let's use the May 8 tickets today" - so that they can save money on printing.

I think when you are talking 100 year old tickets, the association to a specific game gets overtaken with something associated with the first season at Fenway.

Here is the only other 1912 stub I've seen
Love of the Game Auction - April 2013 - 1912 Red Sox Ticket