Info on '68 Topps #454 variant chain/nochain please?
I just got back from PSA grading a graded NM7 Topps 1968 checklist (458-533) featuring Frank Robinson and became of a variation I didn't know about. Apparently there are versions of this card that show a chain around his neck, and those that don't. I can't find enough reference material either on Google, in sports forums, or sales records on eBay to let me know whether the chain or no-chain variant commands any type of premium. It's not listed in the PSA SMR as a better-known variation would be (such as the '69 WL variations) I'm going to be putting it up for sale and the going price on NM-7 for this card on eBay seems to be around $15 but those DO NOT show the chain. I just want to make sure I'm not throwing away variant that might command a bit of a premium here out of ignorance.
Anybody have any helpful info to pass along on this one? Seems like every time I turn around, there's another variation to know about. Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.
Anybody have any helpful info to pass along on this one? Seems like every time I turn around, there's another variation to know about. Thanks in advance for any info you can provide.
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To be honest, no direction, but...
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Regardless, I appreciate your quick reply an wish you and yours all the best.
Mark
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Al
Do you have any idea how such a cropping variant can occur?
I'm gonna guess that the plate wore out and they made new ones - resulting in a variation?
Hope you are well - had a good Thanksgiving!
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I can't speak for the '68T set, but it seems to be well documented that the '62T green-tint variation, which also includes differently cropped photos, was due to a different printer being used.
The '68T set was the last one I collected as a kid. Loved it!
<< <i>Stone,
I can't speak for the '68T set, but it seems to be well documented that the '62T green-tint variation, which also includes differently cropped photos, was due to a different printer being used.
The '68T set was the last one I collected as a kid. Loved it! >>
Mike - are you saying that 2 different printers did the set - right?
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Al
<< <i>Things good here Mike. I sent a contribution direct to your cause for Jay. My guess is that this card was a DP, like the 311-313 52s and the 11 different 63s with similar cropping and other differences. There are several from 56 as well >>
I think I got it Al.
If a card is a DP - it'll have 2 separate card plates - and a variation will occur when making them - correct?
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Al
As for Bob saying there are only 2 , he is just hoping he is right so he does not have to look for another one
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Al
I believe that the reason for the difference in most of the checklists in the cards of the 60s and early 70s is that Topps typically employed a "look-ahead" marketing ploy....for example 6th series checklists were printed on 5th series sheets and distributed with the 5th series. That way kids buying 5th series cards had an idea of who to look forward to getting when the next series came out. Then when the actual 6th series came out, the 6th series checklist was printed again....usually with minor variations or corrections. So, yes, in a way the checklists were double printed, because they were printed across different series.
Really good articles and description of this practice (dubbed the "series preview theory" or "bonus checklist theory" ) are posted by Dave Harnish (ToppCat) here
Another really good link
Hope this helps.
Jim
Edited to correct link
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