Anatomy of 1977 Bruingirl Packs
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So earlier in the year, before I was a member of this board, I purchased some unopened on eBay. Surprisingly, my first couple worked out. Then I ran into bruingirl selling 3 pack lots. I was bidding on 4 different lots, and in hindsight, fortunately, only won 1. They shipped quick, and when they arrived, they were nicely packaged, but lack of roller marks in particular gave my pause. However, I was quite new to unopened/vintage packs, and based on the reviews, kinda assumed they must be legit, and several reviewers even listed some of the cards they pulled. I decided to open 1 pack, and got a Jack Clark RC (woohoo, right?). I gave positive feedback, but still, wasn't quite feeling comfortable and decided I'd set those last 2 packs aside, outside of my PC, until I was better educated.
Thus one of the reasons I joined the board.
Well it didn't take long before I saw questions arising about this seller. Then I knew I was sitting on a pair of junker 77's that would need to be replaced. I reached out to Tim and he was kind enough to sell me a few packs to replace these.
With that, it had been months, so I wasn't gonna ask for a return. And even if she did process a return, those packs would just end up in some other poor schmucks hands. Since I knew going in, as with all things on eBay, that there's a chance you get jacked, I figured I'd eat it and post the results.
NOTE: The scans make the cards look better than they are...but the Ryan/Seaver will show the detail that most of the rest are in.
Pack #1: No Stars. Chips and Rough Edges, and Touched Corners...Awesome.
Pack #2: Chips and Rough Edges, and Touched Corners...but one nice card...with 4 Touched Corners
The only consistency in the quality of cards in these packs, was that there wasn't any. Nothing felt "pack fresh", and even a perfectly centered card wouldn't do better than NM. I mean have you seen a card come out of a pack that looks as used as that Ryan/Seaver? (To be fair though, I'd rather have that card than another beat up common...just sucks when the packs are stacked against you)
The wax card also had a good 2mm of wax on it. Guessing that iron was pretty hot.
Anyway, thought I'd share a cautionary tale. Be careful out there.
Jim
Thus one of the reasons I joined the board.
Well it didn't take long before I saw questions arising about this seller. Then I knew I was sitting on a pair of junker 77's that would need to be replaced. I reached out to Tim and he was kind enough to sell me a few packs to replace these.
With that, it had been months, so I wasn't gonna ask for a return. And even if she did process a return, those packs would just end up in some other poor schmucks hands. Since I knew going in, as with all things on eBay, that there's a chance you get jacked, I figured I'd eat it and post the results.
NOTE: The scans make the cards look better than they are...but the Ryan/Seaver will show the detail that most of the rest are in.
Pack #1: No Stars. Chips and Rough Edges, and Touched Corners...Awesome.
Pack #2: Chips and Rough Edges, and Touched Corners...but one nice card...with 4 Touched Corners
The only consistency in the quality of cards in these packs, was that there wasn't any. Nothing felt "pack fresh", and even a perfectly centered card wouldn't do better than NM. I mean have you seen a card come out of a pack that looks as used as that Ryan/Seaver? (To be fair though, I'd rather have that card than another beat up common...just sucks when the packs are stacked against you)
The wax card also had a good 2mm of wax on it. Guessing that iron was pretty hot.
Anyway, thought I'd share a cautionary tale. Be careful out there.
Jim
52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
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Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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