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Why eBay sellers drink part MCXXVIII
Greeniejr
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Thinking back, it is probably my fault for actually trying to do business with this individual but you try and give people the benefit of the doubt. I listed a coin on eBay as a 1 Cent no reserve auction a couple weeks ago. It sold for $1475 which was a bit cheap but was palatable. As soon as the auction ends the guy calls and says that he changed his mind and that rather than have me send it and him return it, just cancel the transaction. Despite having no returns, I did not want to deal with a retaliatory negative and an arbitrary SNAD claim so I just did it. I should have stopped there but 3 days later the guy calls and says he will honor the deal and gave us his credit card. Well I just got a phone call from the guy saying that he got the coin but is not happy with it and is returning it. I will gladly share this eBay all-stars name in PMs.
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<< <i>That could be tough if you had a buyer really jerk you around with a wife or someone else chiming in as the drama enfolds and sucks you into their problems; icing on the cake would be if you get a call from an emergency room from the customer blaming you for what they actually did to end up there. Lots of possible variations.... >>
Tiger Wood's "car accident" in front of his house might just as well been his wife mad about a coin purchase?
Selling that thing on GreatCollections would have cost you nothing and you would have avoided the headache. Granted, if you don't think they get the web traffic your listing got on eBay, that's another matter.
Good luck!
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<< <i>Thinking back, it is probably my fault for actually trying to do business with this individual but you try and give people the benefit of the doubt. I listed a coin on eBay as a 1 Cent no reserve auction a couple weeks ago. It sold for $1475 which was a bit cheap but was palatable. As soon as the auction ends the guy calls and says that he changed his mind and that rather than have me send it and him return it, just cancel the transaction. Despite having no returns, I did not want to deal with a retaliatory negative and an arbitrary SNAD claim so I just did it. I should have stopped there but 3 days later the guy calls and says he will honor the deal and gave us his credit card. Well I just got a phone call from the guy saying that he got the coin but is not happy with it and is returning it. I will gladly share this eBay all-stars name in PMs. >>
Obviously the "no returns" clause did not apply to him because he is special!
Ebay lost its relevance when they removed the ability to comment on buyers as well as sellers.
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<< <i>Thinking back, it is probably my fault for actually trying to do business with this individual but you try and give people the benefit of the doubt. I listed a coin on eBay as a 1 Cent no reserve auction a couple weeks ago. It sold for $1475 which was a bit cheap but was palatable. As soon as the auction ends the guy calls and says that he changed his mind and that rather than have me send it and him return it, just cancel the transaction. Despite having no returns, I did not want to deal with a retaliatory negative and an arbitrary SNAD claim so I just did it. I should have stopped there but 3 days later the guy calls and says he will honor the deal and gave us his credit card. Well I just got a phone call from the guy saying that he got the coin but is not happy with it and is returning it. I will gladly share this eBay all-stars name in PMs. >>
Obviously the "no returns" clause did not apply to him because he is special!
Ebay lost its relevance when they removed the ability to comment on buyers as well as sellers. >>
When sellers were able to give feedback, they would routinely give a retaliatory neg whenever a buyer left them a neg even when it was well deserved. It got to the point that feedback became meaningless.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>After he asked you to cancel his bid you should not have dealt with him again. >>
Yup. Sounds like a self inflicted injury to me.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>After he asked you to cancel his bid you should not have dealt with him again. >>
Yup. Sounds like a self inflicted injury to me. >>
I thought you always took the collector's side against the dealer?
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<< <i>After he asked you to cancel his bid you should not have dealt with him again. >>
Yup. Sounds like a self inflicted injury to me. >>
I thought you always took the collector's side against the dealer? >>
Do you know for a fact that the buyer wasn't another dealer filling a want list for a fickle customer?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>When sellers were able to give feedback, they would routinely give a retaliatory neg whenever a buyer left them a neg even when it was well deserved. >>
And you know this was a routine occurrance because...
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<< <i>When sellers were able to give feedback, they would routinely give a retaliatory neg whenever a buyer left them a neg even when it was well deserved. >>
And you know this was a routine occurrance because... >>
This was frequently and routinely discussed on this forum and other forums before the eBay rule change. It makes sense that if a customer gives a seller a neg, the seller wouldn't want to respond with positive feedback. Do you know otherwise?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>After he asked you to cancel his bid you should not have dealt with him again. >>
Yup. Sounds like a self inflicted injury to me. >>
I thought you always took the collector's side against the dealer? >>
He did take the collector's side. Greeniejr goes out of his way to accomodate a customer and when the deal goes bad, Greeniejr gets blamed for not knowing better than to have tried to be a nice guy. If Greeniejr had instead told the customer "Sorry, no thanks" when the buyer changed his mind and wanted to complete the transaction and the buyer came here to report what happened, Greeniejr would have been criticized as a poor seller for not accomodating the buyer.
<< <i>This was frequently and routinely discussed on this forum and other forums before the eBay rule change. >>
The fact it was discussed is not evidence that it was a widespread practice. How often did people come here to report that they left a neg for a seller but never got one in return? Not often? Of course not- when there's no problem, there's little reason to start a discussion.
<< <i>It makes sense that if a customer gives a seller a neg, the seller wouldn't want to respond with positive feedback. >>
The fact a seller wouldn't want to leave a positive feedback after getting a neg is not evidence the seller left negative feedback. Sellers can leave no feedback, you know. And lots of sellers leave feedback before the buyer does anyway, making your point, in that case, moot.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>After he asked you to cancel his bid you should not have dealt with him again. >>
Yup. Sounds like a self inflicted injury to me. >>
I thought you always took the collector's side against the dealer? >>
Do you know for a fact that the buyer wasn't another dealer filling a want list for a fickle customer? >>
So, no matter what happens in life, it has to be some dealer's fault. Got it!
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<< <i>After he asked you to cancel his bid you should not have dealt with him again. >>
Yup. Sounds like a self inflicted injury to me. >>
I thought you always took the collector's side against the dealer? >>
Do you know for a fact that the buyer wasn't another dealer filling a want list for a fickle customer? >>
So, no matter what happens in life, it has to be some dealer's fault. Got it! >>
You sure are good at putting words in other people's mouths.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire