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Tigers trade Prince Fielder!?!?
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Prince Fielder was traded to the Texas Rangers for Ian Kinsler!
WTF!!!
Paul.
WTF!!!
Paul.
Later, Paul.
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Later, Paul.
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I still can't believe this.
Justin
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Boras NEVER gives the green light for players to re-up before they can hit free agency (not that it is really his call anyway, since he works FOR the player).
His advice is to always get to free agency, and players know that when they sign with him. Jered Weaver is the only Boras client in recent memory that re-upped during his arbitration years, and Boras was not happy.
"If I ever decided to do a book, I've already got the title-The Bases Were Loaded and So Was I"-Jim Fregosi
<< <i>time to stock up on Profar..........that little dude can RIP! >>
What makes you say that? He hasn't shown himself to be anything above "pretty good" as a hitter at any level.
I saw Profar play probably 35 times during his pro debut season with Spokane. He was very obviously major league ready defensively but was way behind the curve offensively (an assessment shared by the scouts I talked to* at the time). He will obviously continue to improve, being only 20 years old, but I just don't see him being a star offensively in the majors.
* - one of the great perks of the location of my season tickets for Spokane Indians games is that scouts sit in our area all the time. They are generally pretty nice and will talk to you and share their feelings on players. One guy in particular, from the Oakland A's, was unbelievably nice. He & I talked for the entire game about all aspects of player development, player ratings, the way the game is played, you name it.
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<< <i>time to stock up on Profar..........that little dude can RIP! >>
What makes you say that? He hasn't shown himself to be anything above "pretty good" as a hitter at any level.
I saw Profar play probably 35 times during his pro debut season with Spokane. He was very obviously major league ready defensively but was way behind the curve offensively (an assessment shared by the scouts I talked to* at the time). He will obviously continue to improve, being only 20 years old, but I just don't see him being a star offensively in the majors.
* - one of the great perks of the location of my season tickets for Spokane Indians games is that scouts sit in our area all the time. They are generally pretty nice and will talk to you and share their feelings on players. One guy in particular, from the Oakland A's, was unbelievably nice. He & I talked for the entire game about all aspects of player development, player ratings, the way the game is played, you name it. >>
I second that. I hope the Rangers package Profar up and send him on his way in exchange for a proven pitcher. Dude hasn't impressed me the last couple of years at all
Mike
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<< <i>time to stock up on Profar..........that little dude can RIP! >>
What makes you say that? He hasn't shown himself to be anything above "pretty good" as a hitter at any level.
I saw Profar play probably 35 times during his pro debut season with Spokane. He was very obviously major league ready defensively but was way behind the curve offensively (an assessment shared by the scouts I talked to* at the time). He will obviously continue to improve, being only 20 years old, but I just don't see him being a star offensively in the majors.
* - one of the great perks of the location of my season tickets for Spokane Indians games is that scouts sit in our area all the time. They are generally pretty nice and will talk to you and share their feelings on players. One guy in particular, from the Oakland A's, was unbelievably nice. He & I talked for the entire game about all aspects of player development, player ratings, the way the game is played, you name it. >>
He was very obviously major league ready defensively but was way behind the curve offensively (an assessment shared by the scouts I talked to* at the time).
wait, so a "scout" said a guy who was never "behind the curve" offensively at any level was indeed behind the curve? I'm going to assume he meant that his glove was ahead of his bat which is normal for any middle infielder not named Javier Baez. Otherwise you probably don't see him too much anymore as if he actually said that, he's probably now selling life insurance at a Liberty Mutual branch in Anytown, Nebraska. It would be pretty difficult to be behind the curve when he was always among the youngest players at his respective level. He was 17 in low A ball at Spokane when he was the youngest or second youngest positional player in post rookie ball. At 18 he was rolling up a near .900 OPS (.207 isolated slugging) in High A in the neutral to slightly pitcher friendly environs of the Sally League. And during his entire MiLB run, save for his sojourn as a rushed (common for the Rangers) child in Spokane, he's posted close to even K/BB rates. I'm not saying he's going to be an impact bat, or even a star, his floor is probably Erick Aybar, while his ceiling may be something of a Alan Trammell type in that he's going to do everything really well (save for maybe stealing bags), but not necessarily have one 70-80 grade tool that stands out to the average fan.
This is the minor league average
take his fellow top SS prospect at the time in Manny Machado at the same age and level (High A, Sally League)
Machado - .276/.376/.483
Profar - .286/.390/.493
and then the same career trajectory at AA at the same age
Machado - .266/.352/.438
Profar - .281/.368/.452
and pretty much equal AAA numbers to his AA triple slash which is a always a classic identifier to one's ability to make the necessary adjustments climbing the organizational ladder.
Profar - .278/.370..438
you could make a litany of random various MI comps. For example, take Cano's minor league track record
Cano - .278/.331/.425 with nearly a 2:1 K/BB rate
Profar -.276/.367/.449
not saying Profar is going to transform into Cano, as while they're both 6'0, Cano has about 35-40 LBs on Profar at this point. If Profar can put on the desired muscle/weight, I like his chances to become a first division player. Outside of his lack of raw speed, there's not much to dislike.
I will say this - it was all kinds of fun getting to see Profar play at that early of an age. You could see the raw physical skills just bursting out of the kid. Defensively, he was just ridiculous - head and shoulders above every other infielder in the Northwest League and ahead of just about every guy I can ever remember seeing at that level. Major-league ready defensively from day one as a pro - at shortstop. I can't imagine that's been said about too many guys who are 17 years old