1917 Mercury Dime opinions please

Ok so here is a 1917 Mercury dime for your viewing and opinions. I see scratches on the coin and am not sure if it is worth purchasing. I like the coloring ans it is a bit more vibrant than the pics in hand. The B&M shop I go to let me take the pics as they are offering it to me but to be honest it seems off to me so I told them I would get some opinions. So please let me know what you think and thank you ahead of time. Oh it is being offered to me at $100.00 which would be MSFB 64 pricing. Like I said I like the coloring but I don't want to make an uninformed purchase on this on as I would be keeping it for my boys Merc Dime set.
sorry about the pics best I could do at the time.




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<< <i>Looks very AT. >>
I'd also add that it appears to me that the obverse has been wiped.
If you like the coin pay what you're comfortable with; but I'd never buy it expecting that it'd grade or that I'd make money on it.
-Steve
According to the price guide, an MS64 example, with full bands, can be had for around $100. I'd rather have an example with good, honest wear than this one.
JMHO
<< <i>My honest opinion is it's AU55 details, artificial toned, cleaned, scratched...I wouldn't pay $5 for it.
-Steve >>
I agree.
it's got $1.44 in value as melt
<< <i>If you like the coin pay what you're comfortable with; but I'd never buy it expecting that it'd grade or that I'd make money on it. >>
My advice would be: If you like the coin, don't buy any coins until you educate yourself enough to not like the coin...
EDIT: Or stick to slabbed coins.
<< <i>any value in it if I were to say dip it? I know it is a lost cause because of the harsh cleaning/scratches but the FB is still cool >>
$1.44
Cleaned, scratched and artificial toned
You also need to find another dealer.
Sorry to be so blunt, but that coin is a dog.
Bullion.
<< <i>many people have told me I need to go get educated and I don't know what I am doing but not one has stated how to tell a coin has been AT or what on this coin shows that it is AT. Someone who would like to know this would not find that information in this thread even though that was one of the main questions. One can not learn when information to learn from is absent. Could some one who is good at describing the issues present on coins that show a coin has been artificially toned/colored please add some of that information to this thread. It is also important to remember that we all see things differently, we like different things and all have different levels of education whether in numismatics or any other given field. Thank you all for your comments and help. >>
I think the reason no one here has given you a specific, end-all answer to your inquiry is that there is no such answer. The ability to distinguish an artificially toned coin from a naturally toned coin cannot be learned overnight. It takes looking at thousands of coins over many years to begin to feel comfortable making such calls. The coin you posted is obviously an AT coin to my eye, first and foremost because the coin is worn and a circulated coin couldn't possibly tone that way unless it has been cleaned or altered. One could go into a detailed description of why the colors and pattern of toning are wrong, but I'm not sure that would be so helpful for you, because it might not ever be able to be replicated or used on another coin.
As an aside, I have read through many of your threads and I admire your enthusiasm and would never discourage you from posting here, but my advice is to slow down, soak in everything everybody here is saying and don't be in a rush to master every aspect of the coin hobby. The fact that numismatics is a slowly learned, never mastered field of study is what makes it so wonderful.
The coin isn't hairlined, it's gouged. Well, maybe not gouged, but these are more than trivial scratches. In other words, it's a problem coin to start with. This coin has absolutely zero chance of getting into a slab at MS grades. Zero!
At the end of the day, it's your money, and you can do what you want with it, but the resale value of this coin at a show or at an auction house is less than $2.
I'd recommend buying only coins in slabs if you plan on spending more than $100 or so. Actually, if you were tempted by this one, I'd recommend buying only coins in slabs, bullion possibly excepted. This coin is light years away from MS64FB value.
Sunnywood
Edited to add: Also baised on what I see this coin even if it was not messed with, and was an MS coin, still would not grade FB. The center bands have a small area in the center that, at least on my screen, to be touching.
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I have to chime in and say do not trust anyone that is offering this for $100. Anything from such a dealer is now suspect IMO - he maybe ripping you off on a regular basis. If I had that and your son liked the colors I would give it to him.
You got it correct in your first post about this dime - "...it seems off to me..." - trust yourself. Asking questions is always a good thing
Best wishes,
Eric
<< <i>Hello :-)
I have to chime in and say do not trust anyone that is offering this for $100. Anything from such a dealer is now suspect IMO - he maybe ripping you off on a regular basis. If I had that and your son liked the colors I would give it to him.
You got it correct in your first post about this dime - "...it seems off to me..." - trust yourself. Asking questions is always a good thing
Best wishes,
Eric >>
It a dealer is offering you that coin for 100 bucks without telling you it has been boinked past the point of no return, then be leery in the future.
That coin would go into my bullion bag at this point. The damage done to her trying to AT her has ruined the metal.
Not to mention the physical damage done on the obverse trying to clean her up.
Run away from that coin for more than VG money at best.
<< <i>The B&M shop I go to let me take the pics as they are offering it to me but to be honest it seems off to me so I told them I would get some opinions. So please let me know what you think and thank you ahead of time. Oh it is being offered to me at $100.00 >>
If there's such a thing as karma maybe it will trap this B&M dealer in a elevator forced to listen to Air Supply's Lost In Love 100 times before the doors reopen
a turd , to say the least
Please don't take this the wrong way, but if this coin has even the slightest appeal to you, you need to spend time educating yourself on whats nice, and whats original, and what to stay away from. Also, any dealer offering a coin like this at 100 bucks is either a crook, or at least somebody you need to stay away from !
However as a B&M owner, someone should have advised you of the proper condition of the dime.
Then on the other hand you should have known that yourself.
Hoard the keys.
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Well, there certainly are people on the forum for whom the glass is perpetually half-empty, but when you post an
abomination and ask for opinions, "negativity" is what you're likely to get in response. Don't consider it a reflection
on yourself.
I would be leery about doing further business with that dealer.
Lance.
Hoard the keys.
I would not even go back there. Try looking here at these dimes. DLRC is an excellent dealer. You spoke of about $20...were maybe going to spend $100...
I am not looking to get into a discussion about these Mercury dimes, or NGC vs PCGS or anything else. I am just saying this is a great dealer in my experience and you will get what you are paying for. You can get descriptions over the phone and ask questions too. They treat you very well big or small. I was treated very well buying Pr Seated and Barber, or a $18 PCGD MS65 RD common wheatie for my Uncle's birthday.
John and company are class act. You don't have to spend a million to be treated like a million. And you can do it from home
1940 NGC MS66 $45 of make an offer
1940 NGC MS65 FB $60 or make an offer
1942-D NGC MS65 $35 or make an offer
1943 NGC MS65 $35 or make an ofer
1943-D PCGS MS66 FB $70 or make an offer
Best wishes,
Eric