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Photo help needed - Ruth, Gehrig, Dimaggio

fmclaug11fmclaug11 Posts: 328 ✭✭✭
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Looking for some information about who is in the following photos (besides Ruth, Gehrig & Dimaggio) and any other details about when/where these might have been taken. Has anyone seen these photos and could they possibly be original candid shots or are they common press photos? I just purchased these and do not have them in hand yet to see what markings/info might be on the backs. Thanks

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  • fmclaug11fmclaug11 Posts: 328 ✭✭✭
    Just found an example of the first photo with Ruth/Gehrig...the third person is Jimmie Foxx. Presumably a press photo.
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    on the 2nd pic, its an easy one like the 1st one, its well known too....... J.DiMaggio, F.Crosetti, T.Lazzeri, B.Dickey, L.Gehrig, J.Powell, G.Selkirk (1936)

    the last pic is a town team, very common as there were more baseball teams back then than now... very hard to ID if not impossible
  • CrazylegsCrazylegs Posts: 406 ✭✭✭
    You already have the answers for the first 2.

    The best way I have found to I.D. early photos is by looking close up at something
    in the picture for help.

    Try to see if the trophy in engraved, you can get an I.D. from a cap (possible team),
    or sometimes there may be a building or sign in the background to help.

    Those early town team shots can be tough!

    Good luck and let us know if you get it figured out.
    Craig AKA "Crazylegs"
  • cjaccardicjaccardi Posts: 542
    how you could not recognize Jimmie Foxx ?
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    Some info that might help some of you guys. Many of you know this stuff.
    Shared with good intentions.
    For what it is worth:

    On identifying vintage stills:
    There are reprints and re-strikes all over the place and they outnumber originals which only adds to the problem - some are sold as original/vintage, some are sold as copy prints and some are sold as "?" which is...unfortunate.
    So, how can you identify a true vintage publicity still? Above all, it will be razor sharp including all 4 corners (because it was printed from the original negative), it will be on fibrous paper, it will have deep darks and white hot lights (the 2nd photo above is a copy print with little depth), it will not be cold black and white but a warm sepia. It will also likely show signs of its age. In addition, the markings on the back can be as informative as the image on the front; a Ruth press photo with a zip code on the back identifies itself as not vintage (unless re-used), in which case you look for the other characteristics above). Also, many vintage photographs will be on double-weight paper. almost all re-strikes are on single weight paper.

    Not all original stills will display all these characteristics simultaneously. Often you will have a combination of these - over time you will get "a feel". There is no substitute for looking at as many genuine still as you can.

    Best wishes,
    Eric

    Edit to add: A photographers stamp usually indicates the item has many little brothers and sisters.
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Some info that might help some of you guys. Many of you know this stuff. >>


    Thanks for sharing, good info. Any recommendation of where to get some experience handling genuine? And/or sellers who you would trust to accurately describe as genuine?
    Who is the Golf Card Guy?
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Some info that might help some of you guys. Many of you know this stuff. >>


    Thanks for sharing, good info. Any recommendation of where to get some experience handling genuine? And/or sellers who you would trust to accurately describe as genuine? >>



    Hello,

    Many thanks. It is my pleasure. That information is cross-over from my experienced with photographs in other arena's - mainly original vintage candids of early 19th century ocean liners like Olympic and Mauretania, and golden Hollywood movie stills, which I sell along with autographs and a few other things online and directly to museums and private collectors around the globe.
    I specialize in 1939 New york World's Fair Kodachrome, parts of 1939 NYWF exhibits and buildings, Golden/prime Hollywood/theatre autographs, Cunard Line memorabilia, bits (large and small) of certain ocean liners, atomic/radioactive items from Hiroshima and so on. I also lease items from my collections to museums and authors. Some of my work and items have even been on display in our National Museums. image
    It is like no one has ever seen an original with movie still and other items. I actually know very little about sports! image Shhh. image But with the areas I work in, yes, I have some knowledge image

    Eric
  • yankeeno7yankeeno7 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭
    You can email the Cooperstown HOF research department and they may be able to help you with that last photo. They are VERY good at what they do.
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭


    << <i>You can email the Cooperstown HOF research department and they may be able to help you with that last photo. They are VERY good at what they do. >>




    I could be wrong, but I think the guy seated on the far right will prove a challenge image

    Eric
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably the best place to get good info is David Cycleback's website. It's invaluable. I think it's just www.cycleback.com
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭


    << <i>Probably the best place to get good info is David Cycleback's website. It's invaluable. I think it's just www.cycleback.com >>




    Yes indeed, I have been referencing that site for a long time.
    It is not perfect but it is a great resource. image

    Eric
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