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tiger woods signed golf ball advice

I joined this forum after reading a few threads about a signed tiger ball. After some research I've learned they are quite rare and he doesn't sign them any more.
I'm about 98% convinced that I have the real mcoy. I knew I had it packed away in my parents attic all this time but never realised the possible value.
My mother worked at a high end car dealership in Seattle when I was in Jr, high. A client gave her the ball and she gave it to me since I was collecting cards at the time. In 2002, I shipped out for the navy. I packed my shelves into boxes and its been there since. Fast forward to a week ago while rummaging through old stuff, I find it just like I'd left it years ago.
After looking into the time frames of tigers career , I called my mom to get every detail about the ball she could remember . 1997 is when she was given the ball. She doesn't remember any paperwork with it. The thing that makes me believe its real is that I've owned it since '97.. so how many people were counterfeiting his auto back then?
I'm completely new to the memorabilia game...so, if any one has advice what to do next(besides selling it to you for 100 bucks) I'd be grateful.
Also..what does a COA cost? Is psa/dna the optimal choice? Is it a lengthy process?
Oh yea..its signed on a titleist dt wound 100 if that helps..cheers
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  • shu4040shu4040 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭
    i really have no idea, but hope it's real!

    it's pretty close to this one tiger ball

    however i have no idea who "authentic graph" is who gave the COA, JSA they are not
  • I really hope its the real deal. I've been in possession of the ball since '97, so that seems to help my case..who is the most respected authenticator ? Are there places I can bring to get it certified?
    Ya can't take it with you.
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Get it authenticated, I would use PSA. I am not sure how much they charge or how much the ball is worth, but if he isn't signing them any longer, I am sure it has value and it will appreciate.

    No offense intended, but anyone can claim they have had an item for any length of time. What you need is proof.

    Good luck!
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  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The thing that makes me believe its real is that I've owned it since '97.. so how many people were counterfeiting his auto back then?
    >>



    Some, probably. He was the SI sportsman of the year in '96.
  • Hello,

    I don't think so. This is very abbreviated for mid 90's. Angles, baselines, slants and construction appear wrong.

    Best wishes,
    Eric
  • JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hello,

    I don't think so. This is very abbreviated for mid 90's. Angles, baselines, slants and construction appear wrong.

    Best wishes,
    Eric >>




    +1

    Tiger usually spelt out all of his name in his early career. This looks like "TigWds" while the example previous shown (the ebay listing) shows a clear "TigerWoods". There are a lot of differences. That "W" doesn't look very good either.

    IMO
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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    The PSA/DNA fee for a Tiger Woods auto is $100, plus shipping/insurance. I'd say it's worth doing if you feel it's authentic.
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭
    Tiger's signature has changed dramatically since 1993. This looks like a 96-97 era signature to me. Absolutely worth the $100 PSA shot in the dark. But be careful, they're suspicious (as they should be) of all TW golf balls.
  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,497 ✭✭✭✭
    didn't Woods win the Masters in April of '97?

    i have no opinion as to it's authenticity, but supposing it is authentic by simply using the year of acquisition is being naive

    for your sake, i hope it's authentic (but i'd get it authenticated as well).

    good luck,

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  • MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭
    I think it depends on what you goal is with the ball. If you plan on keeping the ball, I would just put it away and go with the story your mom told you.

    If you are looking to sell it, your only chance to realize full value is to risk the $100 and see if you can win the PSA lottery. I don't like this situation but it's the reality of selling autographs these days. Without it, you're lucky to get the $100 for it.

    Yes, there were a lot of fake Tiger Wood's autographs in 1997.


  • << <i>If you are looking to sell it, your only chance to realize full value is to risk the $100 and see if you can win the PSA lottery. I don't like this situation but it's the reality of selling autographs these days. >>



    That is not necessarily true. With the right buyer, papers are not needed at all. To some, papers are as valuable as a slab to an EAC coin collector. Just no need. I do not own anything with papers not would I ever bother to submit anything. If I can examine the item closely, I will purchase Vivien Leigh, Judy Garland, Bela Lugosi etc. and etc. with no papers of any kind. I have sold all these names and more - without any papers. Not a single return for any reason in well over 12 years since I started. I provide no COA - just my word.

    Eric

    Edit to add: PS - Conversely, I do not care whose papers you have - if I do not find it genuine I will not buy it. I begin with the premise it is false and work from there. Anything else is asking for trouble. Your logic of it being likely real because of when you got it is obviously not sound. How much time have you spent looking for a Woods written in this manner? Why should this be so very abbreviated when he was signing clearly then? Angles, baselines, slants and construction appear wrong. Why? Fabric and flavor appear so very different from authentic exemplars - why? The abbreviated 1995 balls I have seen look nothing like this. Even in a so-called "rushed signature" (not something to buy), some things remain. I am of the opinion that a faster signature will just open up a forgery even wider to being spotted.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think it depends on what you goal is with the ball. If you plan on keeping the ball, I would just put it away and go with the story your mom told you.

    If you are looking to sell it, your only chance to realize full value is to risk the $100 and see if you can win the PSA lottery. I don't like this situation but it's the reality of selling autographs these days. Without it, you're lucky to get the $100 for it.

    Yes, there were a lot of fake Tiger Wood's autographs in 1997. >>



    Agreed 100%

    Not to discount what magikbilly said but....

    If you intend to sell it without authentication paperwork, it will significantly reduce the buyer pool and it's extremely likely you'll leave a nice chuck of change on the table. It would be understandable if it were a wash but you're looking at several hundred in upside.

    So IMO, definitely worth sending in if you plan to sell but probably not if you're just going to hold onto it.
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  • << <i>i really have no idea, but hope it's real!

    it's pretty close to this one tiger ball

    however i have no idea who "authentic graph" is who gave the COA, JSA they are not >>




    I don't think they are close at all. Construction of "T", left coiling "g"...the non-abbreviation. The "W"...
    JSA? well...it is a very questionable signature to me and thus not a candidate for my stock. Things need not be black and white when buying for resale - what I mean is I stay away from anything potentially problematic. It is seldom worth it. And it it come back good I still would not touch it. Gut first, paid opinions later.

    Stown - you think has a chance at coming back good?

    Eric

  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Stown - you think has a chance at coming back good? >>



    Didn't say that, I have no idea if it's legit or not. IF he intends to sell, it would make economic sense to get PSA's opinion. I'm not bashing your business model (to each his own) but if the auto is real, the realized price will be more than the authentication fees on an early signed Wood's ball. Don't know how much more but feel 100% confident it will exceed $100.
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


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    << <i>Stown - you think has a chance at coming back good? >>



    Didn't say that, I have no idea if it's legit or not. IF he intends to sell, it would make economic sense to get PSA's opinion. I'm not bashing your business model (to each his own) but if the auto is real, the realized price will be more than the authentication fees on an early signed Wood's ball. Don't know how much more but feel 100% confident it will exceed $100. >>



    Hello Stown

    I did not mean you meant anything about my business model - no problem image Yes re value and resale value - to most. Indeed.
    I just meant to me, it would be throwing money away. Sure, in my model I'd buy more stock with that money or find another example. They are not moon rocks image I just don't see this having a shot worth taking. No one here has said much different.

    Best wishes for a good weekend,
    Eric
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