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Mike Gidwitz - former owner of the T206

Hi everyone

Just wondering. Before I take the time to report. As you know, it's very time consuming to write up something with scans and stuff.

Would you guys like to hear about my meeting with Mike Gidwitz and his perspective on "the" card and his approach to the hobby.

Those who may remember, he was written up in SCD many years ago.

I found him to be a very interesting and entertaining guy. I had bought Topps art from him over the years and decided to give him a call after he contacted me about procrastinating a promise to get back to me. He resides in Chicago. It's not often that a small collector gets to have a one on one with someone like Mr Gidwitz.

Here's a nice little diagram of "where" he fits in the pedigree that is Wagner PSA 8.

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So, let me know?
Mike

Comments

  • jordangretzkyfanjordangretzkyfan Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike,

    Your hobby knowledge and perspective is outstanding! Please take the time to share the experience with us.

    Chris
  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    Sounds good to me!
  • addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭✭
    That would be great Mike. I look forward to reading it if posted.

    -Chris
  • Well now you have to tell us about it.....
    I'm a big Nolan Ryan fan OK???!!!
  • Mike, I'm all in. Been reading about Gidwitz in a couple of books that I've picked up. Very unusual and interesting guy. I would love to hear more about your experience with him AND...what art you bought from this guy. image
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Neat card with an interesting story.

    http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2007/159.html

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    I thought that was some kind of "Snuffy" Photoshop work. Funny story.image
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanx Guys.

    Will post tomorrow.

    Chris - I bought out his affordable Topps comic art that I've been collecting for around 15 years now.

    As a bit of history - I'm sure many know - but in 1989 Guernseys auctioned off the first "Topps Vault" full of one of a kind items.

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    The pieces were stamped - where possible - with their stamp:

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    The most recent few pieces from Mike:

    Ken Holtzman - 70T - #505

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    He won the game 3-0 and Phil Niekro was the losing pitcher.

    I'm wondering what the (22) means on the art? Holtzman was #30 with the Cubs. Card # change?

    Cookie Rojas - 77T #509

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    I'm guessing there was a card change based on the #260 which is J.R. Richard in the set.

    Bill Joyce hit 4 triples - he averaged 13 triples per year as a ML'er. This game was against the Pirates.

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    On this day (May 18, 1897), the book Dracula by Stoker was read in public - the year of it's release.
    Mike
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>WOW! Check out Mike Gidwitz' website!!! >>

    Hiya Doug

    That's the website that I found his items and started to do business with him.

    Of interest? He sent me the artwork before I even got a check out to him. If you develop a relationship with him, you'll find him to be a very loyal seller and aims to please IMO.

    In fact, that's one of his weak spots: he's too trusting IMO.

    I wanted to share my thoughts on him to add some perspective to our appreciation of the hobby and the people who participate in it.

    I'm the smallest of small-time collectors, but I do hope that my POV is important in the fabric of collecting.

    That's why I started a thread on my view of collecting. I hope - for those who weren't collecting around the early 90s, that they get a nice "feel" for how different it was back then IMO.
    Mike
  • So going full circle the card is worth $25,000 again?
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So going full circle the card is worth $25,000 again? >>



    That's an interesting perspective TF.

    Tell ya what? Let's go back a bit farther (April 17, '58) - when you could've picked up a nice copy for like 25 bucks!

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    Charles Bray was one of the pioneer collectors in the company of none other than Jefferson Burdick and also friends with Lionel Carter.

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    Mike
  • @Stone --- Sevchuk's first name is Bob -- Just an FYI

    Rich
    Plano, Tx. Card Show #5, Sunday March 6, 2016 at Adat Chaverim (Northeast Corner Independence and Spring Creek) in Plano Tx 9Am to 4 PM. See you there!


  • << <i>@Stone --- Sevchuk's first name is Bob -- Just an FYI >>



    And additional problems with that diagram include:

    1. The card was graded by PSA in 1991, not 1987. PSA didn't exist in 1987. It was auctioned raw by Sotheby's. Gretzky/McNall got it graded after winning the Sotheby's auction.

    2. Gretzky/McNall sold the card to Wal-Mart in 1995, not 1991.

    3. Patricia Gibbs won the Wal-Mart promotion in 1996, not 1995.

    4. The Christie's Auction was in 1996, not 1995.
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭
    I think McNall was in jail when Gretzky sold the card? The reason he sold the card was to cut ties with McNall
    because he was arrested and Gretzky didn't want his name associated with him. This is just an assumption but
    I do know that McNall made his money with rare coins so I am sure him and David Hall knew each other hence the grading
    of the card by PSA? Of course this is an assumption..
    Collector Focus

    ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Neat card with an interesting story.

    http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2007/159.html

    image >>



    I so want that!!

    Love the MAD artwork!! That magazine was a staple growing up!!
  • If anyone is interested in learning more about some of this stuff, I would encourage you to read the book "Mint Condition". You can also read "The Card", but a lot of the information that's in Mint Condition can be found in The Card as well.

    I finished reading both a few weeks ago. Both interesting reads and eye opening about issues around our hobby. I really enjoyed the history concerning Burdick, Inc.

    Mike, thanks for this thread.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>I do know that McNall made his money with rare coins.. >>



    nuh-uh. not all of it. image

    as an aside, during the heyday of card buying insanity when Mr. McNall was still unimprisoned, i once watched him roll out the 100 dollar bills at a card store in Beverly Hills for the purchase of several items.

    the wad of cash barely fit into his trouser pocket.

    knowing what we know now, wonder how much of that wad was acquired in a less than honest manner.

    carry on.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Morning everyone

    Just a general statement.

    I didn't vet the ven diagram of sorts of the card if ya know what I mean?

    My point was just to show where he fit in the grand scheme of the card.

    My "intention" will be to give a little insight on a collector who's known by many - has graced the covers of pubs like SCD.

    Having said that - for those who have spent time looking closely at the "pedigree?" It'll make for some fun conversation over this long weekend.
    Mike
  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for posting the link to the website. I was able to purchase a 1969 Bowie Kuhn through that site for what I thought was reasonable. Really cool to have a card that comes from a well known collection and that one kind of fits the humor and fun that Mike Gidwitz seems to get from collecting.

    I have been a lurker on the boards for a while but wanted to say how much I enjoyed the two threads on Mike Gidwitz. Always enjoy reading about some of the people who have added to the hobby over the years.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Great thread Mike, as usual.
    Good for you.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Great thread Mike, as usual. >>

    Hi Steve!

    Thanx!
    Mike
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for posting the link to the website. I was able to purchase a 1969 Bowie Kuhn through that site for what I thought was reasonable. Really cool to have a card that comes from a well known collection and that one kind of fits the humor and fun that Mike Gidwitz seems to get from collecting.

    I have been a lurker on the boards for a while but wanted to say how much I enjoyed the two threads on Mike Gidwitz. Always enjoy reading about some of the people who have added to the hobby over the years. >>

    hi brad - thanx!

    Why not start your own thread and introduce yourself?

    Also, if you've been collecting for some time. Please check out my thread on "my perspective" on collecting - right now we're discussing SLU's.
    I go back to the early 90s which was a fun time to review and discuss.

    Don't be a stranger!
    Mike
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for posting this Mike. An interesting read.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey guys - thanx again.

    Just want you to know that this thread was just a "feeler" on the topic.

    The actual conversation is in THIS THREAD.

    I apologize for breaking the two up - I realize - now - it was confusing.
    Mike
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