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1974 Topps #599 Variations

Hi All,

There are a few older threads about this card, but I wanted to revisit this (ignoring the Washington variation).

I haven't purchased a Beckett annual in 25 years and decided to get one recently. In looking through the pricing on the variations of this card, it looks like they price the large print version higher than the small print version.

I've nearly completed this set. My LCS had about 15 #599 - seven Washington variations, seven large print variation, and one small print variation. It seems as though in the older threads, it was the common perception that the small print was harder to find.

Was there a point in time where the large print was deemed more scarce and it's just that Beckett has never updated the pricing to reflect it? I know Beckett is not an indicator of actual realizable value, but I would think that their book would reflect a higher price on the small print than the large print on this card, if it is more scarce.

Thanks in advance!

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  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure what the magazine shows, but the online site shows:
    Washington $2
    Large Print $15
    Small Print n/a

    The 'n/a' is usually when there is too short of a supply to determine an appropriate BV (typically what they do for /1, /5, /10, etc. cards). I'm not sure if there's any synch between Beckett's website and their monthly/annual publications.
  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭
    Interesting. Based on that, it would seem as though the Washington variation of this card is more plentiful. You would think if the Washington variations were all corrected at the same time, then one of the two San Diego Padres versions would be the default common card.
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agreed, it's bizarre that the Washington is valued the least for this card. Based on your LCS experience, I'd snap up all the SD large/small prints.
  • From the 2012 edition of the SCD Standard Catalog of Vintage Baseball Cards:


    #599a Rookie Pitchers (Freisleben, Washington)
    $1.00 (NM), $0.50 (EX), $0.30 (VG)


    #599b Rookie Pitchers (Freisleben, San Diego Large Print)
    $3.00 (NM), $1.50 (EX), $0.90 (VG)


    #599c Rookie Pitchers (Freisleben, San Diego Small Print)
    $5.00 (NM), $2.50 (EX), $1.50 (VG)
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    The small print is by far the scarcest and it isn't even close. I got $400 for a PSA 8 not too long ago.
  • lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭
    That's a crazy price for that card, but if the production was consistent with the quantities the LCS had, then you would be totally right - the small print is very scarce.

    The one small print version the LCS had was close to EXMT. I picked that one up and picked up the best conditioned large print and Washington variations to be complete. Given that he had one to two of each Washington variation, I was shocked that he had seven of #599. It doesn't make sense, but maybe it is the most common of the Washington variations?

    Anyway, thanks to all for your input. It must be that Beckett has not updated the pricing in the annual for some time.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The small print version is absolutely the scarcest. I haven't seen a 9 for sale but 8s usually go for $250-450 when you can find them. I haven't checked but I think the pop in 8 is around 15. The WA version does seem to be the most common for some reason. I do have the PSA 8 sm letter version but was fortunate enough to grade it myself from one of my sets.
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