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1983 Topps: Big 4 Rookies Instead of the Big 3?

I hit a PSA 10 Gary Gaetti on my last sub and I was amazed to see that VCP was over $200. My declared value was $2, lol.

Any theories as to what is going on here? It's a pop. 16 so it's not really a low pop.
"I think the guy must be practicing voodoo or something. Check out his eyes. Rico's crazier than a peach orchard sow." -- Whitey Herzog, Spring Training 1973

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  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭
    Because he was one of the last, if not last, player to use a batting helmet without ear flaps?

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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    The Twins collectors love their underrated heroes- Gaetti, Hrbek, Kaat, Blyleven, Oliva..... It's weird how Viola doesn't get any love though.
  • buntbunt Posts: 625
    Mefer !!!

    ACE FREHLEY LEAD GUITAR !!!!! Got his in person auto on his book at a book store last year in Tempe AZ. If you have any idea where I can find an original, or fake, 1976 solo poster please PM.
  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Mefer !!!

    ACE FREHLEY LEAD GUITAR !!!!! Got his in person auto on his book at a book store last year in Tempe AZ. If you have any idea where I can find an original, or fake, 1976 solo poster please PM. >>



    the solo albums came out in 1978, so maybe that was hindering your search. PM sent
  • mrpeanut39mrpeanut39 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Because he was one of the last, if not last, player to use a batting helmet without ear flaps?

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    Sounds as plausible as anything else.

    Along those same lines... Who was the last Major Leaguer to not use a batting helmet?
    "I think the guy must be practicing voodoo or something. Check out his eyes. Rico's crazier than a peach orchard sow." -- Whitey Herzog, Spring Training 1973
  • Tony Conigliaro ?
  • robert67robert67 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭✭
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>Who was the last Major Leaguer to not use a batting helmet? >>


    I did have to look it up.
    Bob Montgomery, a catcher for the Boston Red Sox between 1970-1979. The rule making helmets mandatory was made in 1971. Those players that played on an MLB roster prior to 1971 were not made to wear a helmet while batting if they chose not to do so. Montgomery didn't and played his entire career without wearing one. Montgomery's last plate appearance came on September 8, 1979 in a game against the Baltimore Orioles.
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    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • Sorry Peanut, excuse the interlude on this thread:

    Also a cool KISS poster:
    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=kiss poster 1976&amp;clk_rvr_id=543179890900&amp;adpos=1t4&amp;MT_ID=69&amp;crlp=20119940341_2416792&amp;device=c&amp;geo_id=10232&amp;keyword=kiss+poster+1976&amp;crdt=0


    ooops. thanks waltonbeard, not talking about that one though, There are 1976 solo posters of the band. Not meaning 'solo album' stuff. Previous to that. Solo member posters from 76. Can't find one on ebay or other.


  • << <i>The Twins collectors love their underrated heroes- Gaetti, Hrbek, Kaat, Blyleven, Oliva..... It's weird how Viola doesn't get any love though. >>



    Frank Viola had some solid years in the late 80's. Hrbek in the same time was a monster at the bat. Did they only have a few peak years and that was it?
  • robert67robert67 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭✭
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    I always liked Willie McGee. First and only player to win a batting title in one league while playing in the other....His 1983 Topps card is legendary. And it is documented that he has the longest neck in the history of MLB.

    That's interesting about Gaetti. Decent player, far from a HOF. I just looked up the POP report. There are only 16 Gaetti's graded PSA 10 out of 75. I think the value has to do with that more than anything. There's almost 100 McGee 10's. But Gaetti isn't even popular enough to be submitted much....weird
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  • << <i>Shock Me

    Ace! One of my alltime faves! >>



    Robert ! please correct the link ! It takes you to some 'Billy Graham I love Satan' youtube thing. And we all know 'religion is cool' (ugh)


  • << <i>I always liked Willie McGee. First and only player to win a batting title in one league while playing in the other....His 1983 Topps card is legendary. And it is documented that he has the longest neck in the history of MLB. >>


    I don't think so. Pedro Ciriaco has to be the winner.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damn, Maurice, that is one long neck. Makes Merton Hanks look like Walt Williams.

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    Mike
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Loved his nickname when I was a kid ... Walt "NO NECK" Williams!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • JustinsShoeboxJustinsShoebox Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭
    I try and pop this one as well when I can. I've known about it's ability to command a good dollar amount for quite awhile. I believe this is partly registry driven and partly crazy Twin collectors, as Lee stated.

    This card is actually a part of quite a few registry sets:

    1983 Topps
    Topps 1980s Run - Master
    Hall of Fame Minnesota Twins
    1986 Gold Glove Award Winners
    1987 Gold Glove Award Winners
    1988 Gold Glove Award Winners
    1989 Gold Glove Award Winners
    1995 Silver Slugger Award Winners
    Gary Gaetti Rookie Set
    1983 Topps Minnesota Twins
    1980-1989 Topps Decade of Twins
    1961-Present Minnesota Twins

    At a 10 pop 16, there may not be enough to go around for the nutty registry guys/Twins lovers.

    Justin
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Because he was one of the last, if not last, player to use a batting helmet without ear flaps?

    image >>



    That's how I remember it too. I remember watching games toward the end of his career and the announcers would always point that out.

    However...after further review, it appears Tim Raines was actually the last player to wear a helmet without ear flaps.

    Some interesting tidbits about helmets from Wikipedia



    In 1983, it was made mandatory for new players to use a helmet with at least one earflap. Players who were grandfathered in could choose to wear a helmet without ear flaps. Players can choose to wear double earflap helmets in the major leagues; however, this is not mandatory. Tim Raines was the last player to wear a helmet without earflaps, during the 2002 season. His flap-less Florida Marlins helmet is currently at the Baseball Hall of Fame. Gary Gaetti, who retired in the year 2000, plus Ozzie Smith and Tim Wallach, who both retired in 1996, also wore flapless helmets until they retired from the game.[8] Julio Franco, who retired from baseball in May 2008, was the last active player eligible to wear a helmet without flaps, but he chose to wear a helmet with an earflap throughout his career. Some players, mostly switch hitters, also decide to wear double earflap helmets while batting. Two notable players to do this were Orlando Hudson and Chuck Knoblauch.[9]The Batting Helmet
  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Because he was one of the last, if not last, player to use a batting helmet without ear flaps?

    image >>



    That's how I remember it too. I remember watching games toward the end of his career and the announcers would always point that out.

    However...after further review, it appears Tim Raines was actually the last player to wear a helmet without ear flaps.

    Some interesting tidbits about helmets from Wikipedia



    In 1983, it was made mandatory for new players to use a helmet with at least one earflap. Players who were grandfathered in could choose to wear a helmet without ear flaps. Players can choose to wear double earflap helmets in the major leagues; however, this is not mandatory. Tim Raines was the last player to wear a helmet without earflaps, during the 2002 season. His flap-less Florida Marlins helmet is currently at the Baseball Hall of Fame. Gary Gaetti, who retired in the year 2000, plus Ozzie Smith and Tim Wallach, who both retired in 1996, also wore flapless helmets until they retired from the game.[8] Julio Franco, who retired from baseball in May 2008, was the last active player eligible to wear a helmet without flaps, but he chose to wear a helmet with an earflap throughout his career. Some players, mostly switch hitters, also decide to wear double earflap helmets while batting. Two notable players to do this were Orlando Hudson and Chuck Knoblauch.[9]The Batting Helmet >>



    Looks like I was off by a Tim Raines. Forgot about him.

    Speaking of double ear flaps, I seem to recall Willie McGee always wearing a double ear flap helmet as well.

    Interesting stuff. I did not realize a player as late as 1979 went without a helmet. Who knew!
  • RoarIn84RoarIn84 Posts: 859 ✭✭
    Well, I was Feeling Minnesota but now I'm back in the New York Groove....
  • In Minnesota, the 1987 Twins were the first championship team in decades. So the players associated with that team are collected in this area more than others. It's amazing how long he played.
  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, I was Feeling Minnesota but now I'm back in the New York Groove.... >>



    Ha! Nice KISS reference.

    Who knew Gary Gaetti and Ace were a pair?
  • PSASAPPSASAP Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭



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    Why do I feel like having a bottled beer after seeing that picture? Subliminal advertising?
  • So this thread will go down in history as having the most completely orthogonal simultaneous discussions and btw Damn the 1987 Twins to hell. Yes, I am a Tiger fan homefield advantage via blowing air in or out of the spongedome phhft.
    75 Minis - GET IN MY BELLY!
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