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What's the worst the USPS has killed you?

So, I have had Cliff Clavin lose a Koufax rookie in a priority mail box at the distributor a mile from its destination, so I guess this is only 2nd worst. Graded, sold, and now have the pleasure of selling its shell of former self to try to recoup some of the money I had to refund. Enjoy!

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  • Mat84Mat84 Posts: 63 ✭✭
    Did this guy get ahold of your package??

    Considering the state of that holder the card looks pretty darn good still.
  • JMDVMJMDVM Posts: 950 ✭✭✭
    And that is why I insure everything---make the USPS pay for their mistakes!


  • << <i>And that is why I insure everything---make the USPS pay for their mistakes! >>



    Do you mean that is why you pay to make them pay for their mistakes?

    That is rough. I can't wait to hear the other stories...
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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭


    << <i>And that is why I insure everything---make the USPS pay for their mistakes! >>



    It is substantially cheaper to self insure.

    The post office does a good job and the insurance, like most, will cost you more in the long run.

    You are throwing money away.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    How did you package the card?
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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Had one holder cracked in 20 plus years of buying and selling. $50.00 card refunded the buyers money paid to reholder then it sold for $15.00 less after I got it fixed.

    Total cost about $35.00 I would guess.
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  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    I've had a '57 Clemente PSA 8 get folded in half in transit to me and the seller made good on it.
    It wasn't USPS fault, the seller didn't package it well (plain padded mailer on a $500 card!).
    The seller charged me $12 for shipping, then stupidly didn't insure the card or package it in a box.
    This all happened 10 years ago.

    I've never had a problem with USPS damages other than when sellers package cards the
    wrong way and damage occurs. I'm not saying USPS doesn't kick a box around a two every now and then,
    but most of the issues with damage to packages are from the sellers lack of skills in packaging
    items properly.

    Recently I had a PSA graded card sent to me in a paper, yes paper mailer with no padding at all.
    Luckily it arrived safely.
  • Is it creased or wrinkled now? My little cousin needs that one for his raw set. Send me a PM and let me know what you want for it.
  • USPS has never screwed me in over 4000 transaction...sellers crappy packaging has been the only problem on maybe 5 transactions.
  • tigerdeantigerdean Posts: 910 ✭✭✭
    Had a guy stuff $350 worth of 1971 psa baseball PSA 7 in a priority envelope that I received ripped open with nothing in it. The postman at the desk where I picked the envelope up tells me. I have to mark this as delivered. I said it obviously ripped and empty when you handed it to me. He says "SORRY". The seller by the grace of god refunded my money with no hassle. I had another guy ship me a 1972 PSA 8 Willie Stargell In Action #448 (very tough card) in a bubble envelope with no cardboard. Just like the first post (snapped in half & card totally creased). Just got another one with no bad centering, tilt, or stain to finally replace it 2 years later at a cost of $70 more. UGGHHH. Maybe not exactly the USPS fault I guess but still you have to pack your cards to go to war for them to arrive safely.
  • to answer a few questions:

    1. padded envelope. Same as the last 1000. This first one broken. Think it must have been folded with great force
    2. card got a hairline wrinkle. pretty amazing, considering. maybe tensile strength of holders not as great as we all seem to think
    3. i only insure very expensive cards. insurance rates so silly high that it's a gamble i am willing to take. insuring everything would have cost me hundreds and hundreds of dollars in past year vs. this 55ish loss.
  • sellers that put graded cards loosely in padded envelope kill me, i mean what do you expect gonna happen? sandwich in some cardboard or bubble.
  • Not loose. Size 000 envelopes.
    Update - just got word that 62 aarin psa 5 also got destroyed ib same shipnent. So either there was one horrible event ir psa holders have suddenly changed to cheaper plastic. In the latter case they would be wise to switch back.

    Only thing that would have saved them was flat rate box but that means eating a lot on every shipment or getting bad feedback. No win. Considering quitting whole thing. These were consignment sales. I eat the whole thing
  • I seem to recall seeing boxes designed to mail CDs in. Would something like that work for graded cards?
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    I use the (5" x 9") #00 Kraft Bubble Mailers from RoyalMailers. I place the card in the mailer and fold it in half. Graded or Raw, it adds some nice stability to the mailer. If I sell any card over $50 I ship it in a USPS Small Flat Rate Priority Box. It only costs $5.05 and comes with DC and Insurance for up to $100. I only charge $2.00 flat for unlimited cards.

    I've used the (4" x 7.5") #000 Mailers in the past because they are the perfect size for shipping cards, but it's just too flimsy and can allow for easy bending in transit. For literally a penny more I get twice the stability and protection. It's worth not having the hassle of refunding my customers.
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Padded mailers are fine to an extent.
    For the more expensive slabs, these work great at about .29 cents each.
    I'm on my iPhone so I can't link but here's the item number.
    #190920429213
  • mdkuommdkuom Posts: 969 ✭✭✭
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    These are free from the Post Office (you can order them online for free), postage is $5.05 with DC and Insurance ($100). If you're shipping expensive slabs your shipping cost will be into the $5 range anyway. Right?

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    These Flat Rate Padded Mailers have been awesome for me too... especially for shipping small box sets. Also free from USPS.com.

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  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always ship my cards in padded mailers if there are 6 or less cards to ship. If I'm shipping a single graded card, I tape cardboard on either side to shore it up. Never had an issue. I use the boxes PSA returns the graded cards in to cut up and surround the slab. When shipping more than one card, I tape a piece of paper around them to ensure they hold together. With two or more holders, there's enough strength to prevent breakage.
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,284 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another option is Priority Mail Regional A boxes. Whenever you ship out cards (or anything else for that matter) with short treks, the cost to you can be as low as a shade over $5. As the distance increases, so does that figure. But it'll never reach what you pay when using a regular PM medium flat rate box. And in addition to insurance and tracking being included, the box size is commensurate with said PM medium flat rate boxes. As far as I'm concerned, the best thing since sliced bread. I've saved a ton of cheese over the years by using them. Go to USPS.com and place a completely free order for as many as you'd like, and they'll appear at your doorstep.

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  • WhiteTornadoWhiteTornado Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I seem to recall seeing boxes designed to mail CDs in. Would something like that work for graded cards? >>



    Do you mean these? They probably wouldn't be enough on their own, even assuming the card fits. They are just thin cardboard, no padding.

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Another option is Priority Mail Regional A boxes. Whenever you ship out cards (or anything else for that matter) with short treks, the cost to you can be as low as a shade over $5. As the distance increases, so does that figure. But it'll never reach what you pay when using a regular PM medium flat rate box. And in addition to insurance and tracking being included, the box size is commensurate with said PM medium flat rate boxes. As far as I'm concerned, the best thing since sliced bread. I've saved a ton of cheese over the years by using them. Go to USPS.com and place a completely free order for as many as you'd like, and they'll appear at your doorstep. >>



    I do use their Regional Rate A & B boxes too when I can. I have entirely too many free boxes from USPS, they take up a ton of storage room. I seem to go through the padded mailers and small flat rate boxes the most though.


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    << <i>I seem to recall seeing boxes designed to mail CDs in. Would something like that work for graded cards? >>



    Do you mean these? They probably wouldn't be enough on their own, even assuming the card fits. They are just thin cardboard, no padding.

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    No, I saw something that was a very thin box, one you could slide a CD case into.
  • WhiteTornadoWhiteTornado Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭
    Like this? It's a USPS Priority Mail DVD box. Haven't seen one in person, just noticed it on their site while shopping for other boxes.

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Like this? It's a USPS Priority Mail DVD box. Haven't seen one in person, just noticed it on their site while shopping for other boxes.

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    That one is still charged by the weight though... not flat rate.
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