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Does this Rose have a shot?

NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
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Ripped an otherwise uneventful 1972 wax pack. Got pretty excited when I saw this. Thoughts?

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  • RaulsmasterRaulsmaster Posts: 663 ✭✭
    Looks great...all comes down to the hardest part...surface
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  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    A little side chipping is the only flaw I see in that pic. Looks like a PSA 9 to me.
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  • 1980scollector1980scollector Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭
    Yes, it does.
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  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a really nice 8. Congrats
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  • buntbunt Posts: 625 ✭
    Dude, sub now under the 1 day elite special thing. That's a 10.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a 9 to me, too. Nice card!!


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  • 60sfan60sfan Posts: 311 ✭✭✭
    Very nice card.......small black spot on the left border across from his hands........PSA 9?
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i bet that's a 9.
  • MrSnuffleupagusMrSnuffleupagus Posts: 689
    Its time they let the hit king into the hall of fame! Great card!!

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  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Otherwise uneventful lol
    Great hit!
    Looks like a 9
  • RyanAdmirerRyanAdmirer Posts: 632 ✭✭
    9
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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Best of luck with your sub. Comes back an "8" it's $100.00. A "9"? $400.00!!!!!
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Best of luck with your sub. Comes back an "8" it's $100.00. A "9"? $400.00!!!!! >>



    I think you'd probably get $500 for that card in a 9 today. PWCC sold one at auction for $650 in August and the last one sold for a BIN price of $475.


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  • pjb103183pjb103183 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭
    if thats not a 9 you got robbed....awesome card!
  • MiniDuffMiniDuff Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭
    If it comes back an 8, I'll pay $100 for it in an nanosecond.
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Geez Nik that's a beauty!

    Can't tell from my laptop. If those corners are as sharp as they look on my little screen - I see a 9 in your future. How do the front and back surfaces look?

    Please post your results.
    Mike
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    Hell, I'll do $100 raw
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    It looks like a solid 9 to me, thus you will get an 8.

    Any interest in selling it raw?
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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How strong is the upper right corner and lower left corner?

    I can't tell if they are modestly touched or not.


  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A beauty!
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks like a solid 9 to me, thus you will get an 8.

    Any interest in selling it raw? >>



    He might, for $500, lol..


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  • JuggsJuggs Posts: 495 ✭
    If you want a nice 6 on it, submit under my name.
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭
    Very nice hit. Sub it.


    Thanks,

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  • cardcountrycardcountry Posts: 571 ✭✭✭
    Awesome pull. Wish I had that kind of luck!!

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  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    What Clockwork Angel said was my point.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What Clockwork Angel said was my point. >>



    I don't know about that. Justin's Shoebox bought a mint raw Henderson RC a while back and it graded a gem mint 10.


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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Love the centering on it!! Don't like the batwing effect on the top right. If it can escape the EOT or MINSIZE, then I think 9 or 10.
  • belzbelz Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭
    8.5
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  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice pull!!!

    Looks like a 9 to me
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  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭✭
    Beaut for sure.
    IMO a very strong 8.5 all day and quite possibly a 9
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  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Nice looking card. Good luck with the sub

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  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    8-9
    Very nice
  • UnwoundSageUnwoundSage Posts: 496
    I will remove the risk and offer you $300 raw assuming there are no wrinkles or creases.
  • JustinsShoeboxJustinsShoebox Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a 9 every day of the week to me. Would be interested in seeing a scan of the back. If the back look good and clean, you may have an outside shot at a 10. You might have to crack and submit a few times, but I think you could play the odds and possibly get a 10 on that card.

    Great pull and good luck with the submission.

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  • edmundfitzgeraldedmundfitzgerald Posts: 4,306 ✭✭
    I think it gets a 10 on the first sub.
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭✭
    I think you've got yourself an easy 9 there. If you get anything less, crack and re-submit. Keep us posted!
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  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    Corners are sharp. Surface is fine.

    Back scan as requested.



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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since the corners are indeed sharp I am going to go with a PSA 10.

    This looks easily as strong as the two PSA 9's that sold on EBAY recently and I think the chipping along the right edge is better then both and would seem to be an issue to me with this type of card stock.

    There are 34 PSA 9 OC's and judging by the many examples on EBAY this has great centering. This is a great card for sure. Good luck.



  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    I am surprised some of think it has a shot at a 10. With the slight chipping, I'd be shocked. They have been so tough on giving 10's. Some of the 9's I've had reviewed that they won't bump are just sick.

    I remember when a fellow board member posted a raw Rice and we all said PSA would give it an 8 and sure enough he got a 10. The issues we thought we saw on the scan were not there. I guess the question is how bad that chipping is in person?
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i see a PSA 9, front and back. that's for now. send it in yet Nikklos? shocked if you haven't. image

    after plenty of Gem Mint 10's received back from PSA for this issue, my own experience tells me that the slightly fuzzy border is all that could hold it back.

    the 10's were from vending, of course. never pulled a pack fresh 10, though.

    from what we've seen in the recent past, it wouldn't be shocking to see that card eventually find it's way into a 10 holder. that's what the bump fuss is all about.

    i hope it does.
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Itzagoner and everyone...who thinks its a 10!
    Nikklos
  • SteelernationSteelernation Posts: 362 ✭
    Def a 9. A 20% chance of a 10. Depends who u get as a grader and the mood. Can be argued for a 10. Do they give9.5's?
  • LefthanderLefthander Posts: 97 ✭✭
    Will be 8.5 or 9. It does have a very slight tilt.
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No they don't give 9.5's. Stupid decision.
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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My guess is that the card is in the area where the grade can't be determined by a scan. I'd loupe the heck out of it, walk away for a few days, loupe the hell out of it again. Good luck with the sub.
  • buntbunt Posts: 625 ✭


    << <i>My guess is that the card is in the area where the grade can't be determined by a scan. I'd loupe the heck out of it, walk away for a few days, loupe the hell out of it again. Good luck with the sub. >>



    heh heh. Yep. The card to me looks like a 10. But I'm also in the 10 in my eyes, is an 8 in those that count s eyes club. Have actually done better with what you said. Check it a couple times, but in my case, the couple times should include at least one check while not buzzed and ready to ship to PSA !

    Agreed on good luck with that one. Hope it's a 10 for you.
  • MiniDuffMiniDuff Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭
    The discussion is moot. It is gradable; send it in and start the wait.
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  • PMKAYPMKAY Posts: 1,372 ✭✭


    << <i> I'd loupe the heck out of it, walk away for a few days, loupe the hell out of it again. >>




    My guess is doing that will have no effect on the grade it gets from PSA.
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> I'd loupe the heck out of it, walk away for a few days, loupe the hell out of it again. >>




    My guess is doing that will have no effect on the grade it gets from PSA. >>



    No, but it will temper expectations if there's something visible on the surface.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unless there's a surface issue that's not evident from the scan, that card is a 9 every day of the week, imo.

    As Guy (boopotts) has said many times here, using a loupe is not really necessary to determine the grade as long as you have plenty of light and check the surfaces.


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