<< <i>I'm shockedpeople are hammering (pun!) the coin and not discussing the implications on HA.
Perhaps I should fwd this thread to ha??? People seem certain they made a video of a coin with a huge spot on the obverse and described it as perfect.
No one but I issuggesting contacting HA about this???
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Contact HA and/or NGC. >>
Heritage only sells them............they don't grade them. >>
True, but when they write a description and then do a video about the coin in their listing with their opinion the coin is perfect/flawless, they are grading the coin too.
Good news is that the coin is still available... bad news is that the next bid will cost just over $25k now!
<< <i>I'm shockedpeople are hammering (pun!) the coin and not discussing the implications on HA.
Perhaps I should fwd this thread to ha??? People seem certain they made a video of a coin with a huge spot on the obverse and described it as perfect.
No one but I issuggesting contacting HA about this???
WoW >>
Contact HA and/or NGC. >>
Heritage only sells them............they don't grade them. >>
True, but when they write a description and then do a video about the coin in their listing with their opinion the coin is perfect/flawless, they are grading the coin too.
Good news is that the coin is still available... bad news is that the next bid will cost just over $25k now!
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They're selling the label, they know it is worth big bucks.
<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
Agree. I'd still like someone to post a high resolution man hole cover size pic of a MS70 ASE in a PCGS slab so we can see just how perfect they really are.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
Agree. I'd still like someone to post a high resolution man hole cover size pic of a MS70 ASE in a PCGS slab so we can see just how perfect they really are. >>
Why don't you if you are seeming to be so interested in showing us your example? thanks
<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
A perfect planchet struck with perfect dies at perfect pressure with resultant perfect surfaces in a state of perfect preservation. Will industrial strength calibration of your measuring instruments be required ?
I remember walking thru the lobby at maybe the '89 Silver Dollar show and seeing a crowd of people gathered around some lights.
It turned out that John Highfill had an outstanding very public offer of $3500 to buy the first MS70 eagle graded. This was related to me ,in the midst of the publicity event, by my tablemate at Long Beach shows, John Dannreuther. JD is the father of the PCGS grading taxonomy, which many of us gabbed about as early as 1983. His last observation, being coming for Thai, was that it may have been a 70, but it was "low-end"
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<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
Agree. I'd still like someone to post a high resolution man hole cover size pic of a MS70 ASE in a PCGS slab so we can see just how perfect they really are. >>
Why don't you if you are seeming to be so interested in showing us your example? thanks >>
I don't have any MS70 coins and I never said that I did. I'd just like to see a pic of a PCGS MS70 ASE similar to what the OP showed in an NGC slab so we could make a comparison.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>What is most interesting to me is that the video points out the fact that PCGS has never graded one of these Eagles in MS 70. I wonder why they would not.....? >>
There was a time when the fit hit the shan with milkspotting and PCGS took a long hiatus from giving 70s on ASE.
<< <i> I'd just like to see a pic of a PCGS MS70 ASE similar to what the OP showed in an NGC slab so we could make a comparison. >>
Cherry-pick the worst one . . >>
I guess most collectors of these so-called perfect coins care more about the label than the coin.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I remember in high school physics when they showed us an up close picture of a billiard ball magnified 300x revealing massive crevices and flaws in the surface proving that it was actually not as smooth and round as the earth.
So if you decide to collect billiard balls, I would not recommend a 300x loupe.
<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
Agree. I'd still like someone to post a high resolution man hole cover size pic of a MS70 ASE in a PCGS slab so we can see just how perfect they really are. >>
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<< <i>Maybe the graders got a little blurry-eyed from dealing with massive, huge, enormous bulk submissions of this modern crap.
And maybe the auctioneers got a little blurry-eyed from the gobs of fees they're gonna pull in by selling this plastic. >>
+70!
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<< <i>I'm shockedpeople are hammering (pun!) the coin and not discussing the implications on HA.
Perhaps I should fwd this thread to ha??? People seem certain they made a video of a coin with a huge spot on the obverse and described it as perfect.
No one but I issuggesting contacting HA about this???
WoW >>
Contact HA and/or NGC. >>
Heritage only sells them............they don't grade them.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>I'm shockedpeople are hammering (pun!) the coin and not discussing the implications on HA.
Perhaps I should fwd this thread to ha??? People seem certain they made a video of a coin with a huge spot on the obverse and described it as perfect.
No one but I issuggesting contacting HA about this???
WoW >>
Contact HA and/or NGC. >>
Heritage only sells them............they don't grade them. >>
True, but when they write a description and then do a video about the coin in their listing with their opinion the coin is perfect/flawless, they are grading the coin too.
Good news is that the coin is still available... bad news is that the next bid will cost just over $25k now!
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<< <i>I'm shockedpeople are hammering (pun!) the coin and not discussing the implications on HA.
Perhaps I should fwd this thread to ha??? People seem certain they made a video of a coin with a huge spot on the obverse and described it as perfect.
No one but I issuggesting contacting HA about this???
WoW >>
Contact HA and/or NGC. >>
Heritage only sells them............they don't grade them. >>
True, but when they write a description and then do a video about the coin in their listing with their opinion the coin is perfect/flawless, they are grading the coin too.
Good news is that the coin is still available... bad news is that the next bid will cost just over $25k now!
They're selling the label, they know it is worth big bucks.
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<< <i>I don't play the MS69 - MS70 game. Who has eyes that good? >>
I have great eyes and do not play the game.
<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect.
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<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
Agree. I'd still like someone to post a high resolution man hole cover size pic of a MS70 ASE in a PCGS slab so we can see just how perfect they really are.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
Agree. I'd still like someone to post a high resolution man hole cover size pic of a MS70 ASE in a PCGS slab so we can see just how perfect they really are. >>
Why don't you if you are seeming to be so interested in showing us your example? thanks
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<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
A perfect planchet struck with perfect dies at perfect pressure with resultant perfect surfaces in a state of perfect preservation. Will industrial strength calibration of your measuring instruments be required ?
I remember walking thru the lobby at maybe the '89 Silver Dollar show and seeing a crowd of people gathered around some lights.
It turned out that John Highfill had an outstanding very public offer of $3500 to buy the first MS70 eagle graded. This was related to me ,in the midst of the publicity event, by my tablemate at Long Beach shows, John Dannreuther. JD is the father of the PCGS grading taxonomy, which many of us gabbed about as early as 1983. His last observation, being coming for Thai, was that it may have been a 70, but it was "low-end"
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<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
Agree. I'd still like someone to post a high resolution man hole cover size pic of a MS70 ASE in a PCGS slab so we can see just how perfect they really are. >>
Why don't you if you are seeming to be so interested in showing us your example? thanks >>
I don't have any MS70 coins and I never said that I did. I'd just like to see a pic of a PCGS MS70 ASE similar to what the OP showed in an NGC slab so we could make a comparison.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>What is most interesting to me is that the video points out the fact that PCGS has never graded one of these Eagles in MS 70.
I wonder why they would not.....? >>
There was a time when the fit hit the shan with milkspotting and PCGS took a long hiatus from giving 70s on ASE.
<< <i> I'd just like to see a pic of a PCGS MS70 ASE similar to what the OP showed in an NGC slab so we could make a comparison. >>
Cherry-pick the worst one .
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<< <i> I'd just like to see a pic of a PCGS MS70 ASE similar to what the OP showed in an NGC slab so we could make a comparison. >>
Cherry-pick the worst one .
I guess most collectors of these so-called perfect coins care more about the label than the coin.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
So if you decide to collect billiard balls, I would not recommend a 300x loupe.
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<< <i>Even a MS99+ coin falls apart when blown up to the size of a man hole cover. >>
Same could be said for a MS70- no coin is absolutely perfect. >>
Agree. I'd still like someone to post a high resolution man hole cover size pic of a MS70 ASE in a PCGS slab so we can see just how perfect they really are. >>
Here's one from Coinfacts.
Lance.
Lance.
<< <i>FWIW, PCGS has graded more than a quarter million ASE's at MS70. In 2010 alone more than 70,000.
Lance. >>
and only 37 total for the years 1986-2000. The mint must be getting better.
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<< <i>FWIW, PCGS has graded more than a quarter million ASE's at MS70. In 2010 alone more than 70,000.
Lance. >>
Would a 68 be too high for a lowball set?
I did email 2 people at Heritage on Thursday about 4pm NYC time.