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I don't know how much more unopened I can take.....

before I get sucked into the web.
I'm pretty proud of myself that I have had the discipline to stay focused on 1 project for the last few years.
It is getting increasingly hard not to start an unopened collection.
It's not easy when guys like Tim have beautiful packs for sale on the BST forum, or the recent unopened BBCE boxes that have been over there as well. I just love the way graded packs and unopened boxes display.

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  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
    It's a slippery slope. I wish your willpower luck.
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  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I just love the way graded packs and unopened boxes display. >>



    And with that comment, it is just a matter of time before you join us. It's ok. Go to sleep and when you wake up, everything will be ok.


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  • I start every year thinking it will be the year I actually start an unopened collection. I do pretty well for about 4-5 months, then by the end of the year I just have more opened than I started with and zero unopened.
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I start every year thinking it will be the year I actually start an unopened collection. I do pretty well for about 4-5 months, then by the end of the year I just have more opened than I started with and zero unopened. >>



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    It's ok. Next time talk to us here first. We can help you.

    aconte


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    << <i>I start every year thinking it will be the year I actually start an unopened collection. I do pretty well for about 4-5 months, then by the end of the year I just have more opened than I started with and zero unopened. >>



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    It's ok. Next time talk to us here first. We can help you.

    aconte >>

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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i enjoy counting layers of dust on my shrink-wrapped boxes.....collector dendrochronology.

    i love the way they display, too.
  • I can understand collecting unopen for the sake of eventually turning a profit. I respect you guys for your collecting but I like looking at baseball cards... and practicing self control is something I'm not very good at, thus I will never see that part of the hobby as fun. Eventually I would want to rip all of it open and would see no glory in the resell for a profit. It's like most of the girls I dated in highschool, I had to see what they had to offer before they went back on the market. image
    A really big fan of Dan Aykroyd
  • I'm in the process of finishing my man room. I asked my Dad if he could make me some shelves so I could put my unopened stuff on them. His response was "what unopened?"

    My intentions are good.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bob, just took a quick trip downtown to 1974... image

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    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • jmaciujmaciu Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭
    Tim, I am now salivating like my teething daughter!
  • Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 6,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! Tim, those are some fantastic 74s. Love the Schmidt cello. I did not know they made wax trays in 74. Very cool.
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    Nice stuff Tim!

    Love all the Phillies packs.

    aconte
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice packs Tim, perfect opportunity for me to learn something.

    On the 74 wax tray, the product code on the back ends in a 9, yet the front graphics don't match either 69 or 79 wax trays? Did they just have a bunch of wax tray cellophane made in 1969 and then print new graphics on the front for each year?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice packs Tim, perfect opportunity for me to learn something.

    On the 74 wax tray, the product code on the back ends in a 9, yet the front graphics don't match either 69 or 79 wax trays? Did they just have a bunch of wax tray cellophane made in 1969 and then print new graphics on the front for each year? >>



    Yes, the product code on back of a '74 tray should end in 9, and the tray (which Topps used from '70 forward) features the whale and battleship mail in promos. Topps finally changed the cardboard tray in '75. There are a number of '76 trays out there that are being advertised as '74 due to the fact that Topps reused wrappers from '74 on some packs in '76, but the way to tell for sure which is which is by the cardboard tray and also the pack price, which was 10c in '74 on the wax trays.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a run of wax trays from '75 going forward, front & back, and the tryas and product codes used by Topps for those years:

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    1976 tray...notice the 15c pack price and different cardboard tray from '74, though the wrappers are from '74 packs..

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    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's great info Tim, thanks. So all 1969-1974 wax trays should end in a 9? And the back advertisement for each of those years is the same as well?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Topps changed the cardboard tray once again for 1977.

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    Topps modified the wax tray packaging once again for 1978, when the bar code was positioned on the cellophane instead of the tray itself

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    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's great info Tim, thanks. So all 1969-1974 wax trays should end in a 9? And the back advertisement for each of those years is the same as well? >>



    Yes. The trays were consistent for that era (actually from 1970 through 1974, as in '69 Topps produced a tray with SIX packs, instead of 3, with two packs stacked on top of one another on the tray). 1979 trays have a product code ending in 8, atually, from the 1978 modification, so there should be no baseball trays in '79 with a product coide ending in 9 anyway.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Excellent, thanks. I noticed one of the 75 trays ends in a 4. I'm assuming Topps made new cellophane in 1974. Have you seen a 74 tray that ends in a 4?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was not uncommon for Topps to use wrappers with same product code for multiple years when card count and pack price remained consistent throughout that time, For example, Topps cello packs from 1975 through 1977 bore the same wrapper with a product code ending in '5 on back. The wrapper was changed in '78 because the card count in the cello pack was changed from 18 to 21.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Excellent, thanks. I noticed one of the 75 trays ends in a 4. I'm assuming Topps made new cellophane in 1974. Have you seen a 74 tray that ends in a 4? >>



    No, never. The packaging for the packs was occasionally designed the year prior in anticipation of the next year's production, which is why both '75 and '76 trays have product codes ending in '4. This is also the reason why 1973 Topps baseball cello packs bear a product code on those packs ending with -2 because the wrapper was also designed a year prior to the production change.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Makes sense, thanks.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Makes sense, thanks. >>



    NP, Reggie. When you think about it, it also makes sense that Topps used the same tray packaging from 1970 through 1974, too, before changing it in 1975 when the price of the pack was changed from 10c to 15c. That would also explain why in '69 the trays contained six packs as the price per pack in 1969 was 5c.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Love those Pics Tim!
    BTW I was strictly building PSA sets from the 70s, but then noticed 1970s unopened were drying up so started stashing some to rip later...next thing you know

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    This was the last time I was home, it has probably doubled by now, and I have Tim and CPAMike to blame for this! My 2 1977 Topps vending were bought around 2009. I was told by a friend that he had only seen 3 in the previous decade and he ripped two. I have not seen one since image

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    75 Minis - GET IN MY BELLY!
  • jmaciujmaciu Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭
    Tim and Henry, thanks for the pics. Those kind of things never get old!!!
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    Very nice mint moon dog!
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the pictures. Has anyone seen a 1971 or 1973 baseball wax tray? These seem to be the scarcest from the 1970s.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for the pictures. Has anyone seen a 1971 or 1973 baseball wax tray? These seem to be the scarcest from the 1970s. >>



    No, I have never even seen a photo of one, much less an actual tray come up for auction from either of those years. I have seen 1970 and 1972, but never a 1971 or a 1973.

    Henry, sweet unopened haven there!!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • thenavarrothenavarro Posts: 7,497 ✭✭✭
    Nice stuff mintmoondog!
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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dude, you have an unhealthy relationship with 81 Donruss.


  • << <i>Dude, you have an unhealthy relationship with 81 Donruss. >>



    LOL, I have fond memories of 1981 DR and they are still cheap. Also, I figured based on how bad the cards are out of the box I'll need a van full to complete a high grade set and have to throw the rest away. I actually have almost double that number of boxes now image Unfortunately, I recently ran across all the uncut sheets from this year, so I am sure they will start surfacing soon in plastic. .
    75 Minis - GET IN MY BELLY!
  • I still say you gotta open that stuff at some point. To each their own. Its very impressive that youre keeping so many possible nice HOFers off the card market/collections.
    A really big fan of Dan Aykroyd
  • Do you guys work for "THE MAN"?
    A really big fan of Dan Aykroyd
  • MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    "I still say you gotta open that stuff at some point. To each their own. Its very impressive that youre keeping so many possible nice HOFers off the card market/collections."
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    I'm sure to get a lot of grief for this, but...

    It's a fact that there are way, way, way more '70s baseball cards out in the wild
    than there are people who want to collect them. Yes, even Hall Of Famers.

    So the only way to make them rare is to play the grading game. "Hey, this
    is rare because it's a PSA 10. Yay me!!" All the while there are plenty of
    PSA 6, 7, and 8s out there, either graded or raw, that are really nice cards,
    but they're as common as sand on the beach.

    So, why would you need to open more unopened packs? It's either to add
    to the sand, or to play the grading game?

    While unopened packs may be as common as sand "crabs" on the beach, at
    least they're a magnitude more rare that single cards, so why not keep them
    sealed??

    ...and that's all I have to say about that. image

    Carry on...


    "America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

  • I use to work in a warehouse maybe thats why a bunch of shrink wrapped boxes doesnt appeal to me...I like cards, not boxes or wrappers , just one ex-warehouse workers opinion. Also I wasn't alive in 74 to remember those packs, so the nostalgia factor isnt there.
    A really big fan of Dan Aykroyd
  • I love unopened as much as I enjoy opening them. I look at my collection frequently and think - maybe I will open one box. But then I say, "nah" - it just add to the huge collection of commons I am already trying to organize. So I let them sit another day!
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


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  • rtimmerrtimmer Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭✭
    Tim you are such a wealth of knowledge, I love the pics and the information even more!!
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  • metsmets Posts: 243 ✭✭
    As usually those are some really nice packs Tim.

    You always have something to make my jaw drop.
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