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AT or NT?

BodinBodin Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭

Would love to get your thoughts on a newp that our hosts are currently evaluating. I guess I could wait another couple days to find out, but I'm chomping at the bit!
This is not holdered by NGC. I just used the prongs for pictures.
Sorry for the slightly out-of-focus shots.

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  • njcoincranknjcoincrank Posts: 1,066 ✭✭
    I vote AT.

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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    NT been in an album a while.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ok.... after getting home and looking at it with a bigger screen, instead of my smartphone, I am inclined to say qt.... I don't like how the purple line flows for one thing.

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  • JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I vote AT.

    njcc >>

    Looks NT to me but you have my respect as one of the best in the business. What do you see that I don't.

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  • That coin should slab a 66+ shot 67 and its a type B reverse! That one is def a keeper!
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    yours reminds me of one i just sold although i can't tell if yours is a proof cuz i am walking dead tired

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  • BodinBodin Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭


    << <i>.
    yours reminds me of one i just sold although i can't tell if yours is a proof cuz i am walking dead tired
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    It is a PROOF.

    Thanks for looking and for the input.
  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    I'm going with NT even though Coincrank sez otherwise. Yeah I know, he has forgotten more then I will ever know image
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭✭
    I think it's NT image
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,683 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I vote NT.

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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    NT
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image NT image


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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    NT all the way! image
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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NT for me.

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  • Okay, this is what is see (keeping in mind that NOBODY can correctly assess a coin from a photo or scan):

    The toning on the obverse "rides" up onto the word LIBERTY as well as on the date. Rarely have I seen that on a proof coin. The coin posted later on has SECTIONS of the legends where the toning is riding it, but mostly it stops at the devises (keep in mind that the later coin is mint state).

    Secondly the toning doesn't look like I would expect such viberate colors to. Think a rainbow in the sky. The colors in a rainbow gently fade from one to another. On the proof quarter they don't. They jump all over the place, and to me look like somebody spilled paint on a canvas. They don't blend. They start and stop quite abruptly (particularly in the second photo in the area of three o'clock on the obverse). Also look at the 6 in the date. The toning shouldn't be so erratic if done over time by Mother Nature.

    Lets talk environment. If this piece did indeed sit undisturbed in an album of the era for an advanced collector it would probably one of the National Coin Album type. Hence the sulfur content, moved by air, would be somewhat the same on both the obverse and reverse. No collector at the time would cut up an expensive proof(as aposed to a more available mint state one) and put it in the cheaper one sided Whitman tri-folder.

    So what does all this mean? Nothing. I'm just voicing my opinion. And as Dennis Miller used to say..."hey, I could be wrong".

    njcc



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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AT.

    Curious...why would you photoshop prongs into the images? That's bizarre.
    Lance.
  • Nice coin..going to say NT
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You don't have to say AT, but it is not NT
    Sorry, but there is a world of difference between the toning on the 62 and the 46. Just look closer.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,190 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>AT.

    Curious...why would you photoshop prongs into the images? That's bizarre.
    Lance. >>



    Woah, how can you tell he did that, Lance? Just curious image I agree that is bizarre. Maybe he thought it would influence peoples' opinions?
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin should grade all the way......if not it will be a huge miscarriage of justice.
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure if you can reproduce the mottling found beneath the eagles tail feathers on the reverse. For that reason I am guessing NT. JMHO
  • I do not like how the color is riding up over the date and lettering. Might be the proof qualities allowing that but unlikely. That being said, the coin does have the proper obv and rev toning for being toned in an album with the reverse more or less monochrome first cycle with the proper spectrum around the rims on the obverse. Still, I do not like to see the colors flow so seamlessly over raised areas of detail. This could just definitely be a case of quick dipping and album storage in the right condition for a few years. However, in the majority of those cases, the center of the upside, in this case, the obverse should show signs of silver oxide, or a light dustyness in the center of the coin. Hard to tell from that pic if that is the case. Ngc could go either way on this one but I personally would pass.
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  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    I guess this will be a MA issue. One of a few things I have lernt here is this a much debated subject.
  • BodinBodin Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭


    << <i>AT.

    Curious...why would you photoshop prongs into the images? That's bizarre.
    Lance. >>



    I did not photoshop them into the photo....weird idea.......just weird

    Instead of holding the coin up with my hand(I use natural light) I'll pop the coin into prongs for photography purposes.


  • AT or NT...there is a third option I might use here - pass.

    Eric
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>AT.

    Curious...why would you photoshop prongs into the images? That's bizarre.
    Lance. >>



    I did not photoshop them into the photo....weird idea.......just weird

    Instead of holding the coin up with my hand(I use natural light) I'll pop the coin into prongs for photography purposes. >>

    Interesting. I never considered that. Creative. Certainly different.
    Lance.

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