What would you grade this Ruth autograph? Update on the last post!

AnkurJ

I was looking at it today at the bank and thinking about submitting to PSA/DNA for grading.
Any thoughts?




AJ

fkw

looks authentic in every way... nice looking dark sig too

a few reasons...
not easy to find an old unsigned blue/red stitch ball
not easy to put old shellac on a modern fake sig (its not fake)
and Ruth sig is easily the most common from that Era

yankeeno7

Love the ball. Nice bold sig! Not often I have seen a shellacked ball that I find appealing but that is VERY nice.

AnkurJ

Thanks! Any thoughts on a numerical grade? It has a LOA from JSA already.

yankeeno7

I think that sig looks 9-10. There is no ink fade, its solid, no skip marks, no smudging/overlap. What PSA would grade it, I have no idea. Not sure how they assign grades to a sig.

stown

<< <i>Love the ball. Nice bold sig! Not often I have seen a shellacked ball that I find appealing but that is VERY nice. >>



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Tabe

Absolutely submit it to PSA for grading. There's so many fake Ruth autos out there that having PSA grade it - whatever the grade - will boost the value.

If I remember right, PSA grades the ball and the autograph separately then averages them for a final grade. Something like that. I can see the ball getting a very low grade but that auto is super-nice. I would think the auto would get a 9. Ball might get a 1 or 2 though

AnkurJ

<< <i>Absolutely submit it to PSA for grading. There's so many fake Ruth autos out there that having PSA grade it - whatever the grade - will boost the value.

If I remember right, PSA grades the ball and the autograph separately then averages them for a final grade. Something like that. I can see the ball getting a very low grade but that auto is super-nice. I would think the auto would get a 9. Ball might get a 1 or 2 though >>



It already has a JSA cert which does hold some weight I believe.

vols1

Looks like grade 5, I see a lot of white specks in the signature.

MrDodger

To me authentic would be enough.

GR

If I remember right, PSA grades the ball and the autograph separately then averages them for a final grade. Something like that. I can see the ball getting a very low grade but that auto is super-nice. I would think the auto would get a 9. Ball might get a 1 or 2 though

I don't think that's how it works, don't they usually put on there auto grade only? Shouldn't that mean it's just based on the ink? And Id say the ink is 7+ The h at the end of Ruth may lower it a tad.

Tabe

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<< <i>Absolutely submit it to PSA for grading. There's so many fake Ruth autos out there that having PSA grade it - whatever the grade - will boost the value.

If I remember right, PSA grades the ball and the autograph separately then averages them for a final grade. Something like that. I can see the ball getting a very low grade but that auto is super-nice. I would think the auto would get a 9. Ball might get a 1 or 2 though >>



It already has a JSA cert which does hold some weight I believe. >>


Missed that about the JSA. Of course, if you ask Hauls of Shame, JSA is barely worth the paper it's printed on. I think I'd still get it graded.

GR

Honestly, I've had items I have gotten in person turned down from psa and was disapointed but I could accept it. But then Psa refused to authenticate an item I bought in a pre certified lot from R&R auctions...if Psa is really the gold standard then why didn't they authenticate items they already pre- certified as being authentic enough to be put in a major auction?? After that fiasco I give my business to JSA (Who passed my item (: ) in my opion they are more courteous and every bit as reputable as Psa but everyone has different opinions and feelings on the matter.

AnkurJ

An update to and old thread. The signature was found authentic by PSA/DNA. They wouldn't grade the signature or the ball through because there are 5 signatures on the ball, and apparently they will only do grades for three or less sigs.

I actually found a similar ball up for auction with heritage. Christy Walsh gave these as gifts to VIP's who were attending the 1930 World Series. The balls were mounted on ink blotters at the time, as was this one but obviously removed. Here is the link:

Ruth Ball Heritage

Thanks for looking and commenting on the thread!

StanTheManMusial

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<< <i>Absolutely submit it to PSA for grading. There's so many fake Ruth autos out there that having PSA grade it - whatever the grade - will boost the value.

If I remember right, PSA grades the ball and the autograph separately then averages them for a final grade. Something like that. I can see the ball getting a very low grade but that auto is super-nice. I would think the auto would get a 9. Ball might get a 1 or 2 though >>



It already has a JSA cert which does hold some weight I believe. >>


Missed that about the JSA. Of course, if you ask Hauls of Shame, JSA is barely worth the paper it's printed on. I think I'd still get it graded. >>



They have torn in to both lead authentication companies from what I understand.

As for the ball, it's really nice to have an authentic Ruth sig and backed up by PSA/DNA and JSA LOAs. Great piece!