Anyone looking for unopened OPC Hockey?

mygotta

OPC Hockey Boxes

miwlvrn

He's missing the 1979-80 box though. Wonder what that box would go for in BBCE shrink?

georgebailey2

<< <i>He's missing the 1979-80 box though. Wonder what that box would go for in BBCE shrink? >>



The urge was too great to resist. Apparently, somewhere between pack 13 and pack 20, he got the Gretzky.

miwlvrn

Did you write and ask him about it?

TheCARDKid

That's a nice collection of boxes, but I don't see $25,000 though.

Say, $500 a box minimum (x 11). That's $5,500. Then add another $2,000 for the 70's boxes. Add $3,500 for the 80/81 box. That is a very difficult box. Add $1,500 for 81/82. Plus another $3,500 for the others.

Roughly, $16,000? Give or take a few thousand.

I wanted to buy an 80/81 box years ago to put away. 79/80 sure would be a holy grail.

mygotta

So does this seller just buy boxes from BBCE and sell them on eBay?

Stingray

He has some racks that appear to be sealed in a wrap, not graded, saying that they where authenticated by BBCE. Does BBCE do this to some racks??

packCollector

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He has some racks that appear to be sealed in a wrap, not graded, saying that they where authenticated by BBCE. Does BBCE do this to some racks?? >>



the racks that he has were acquired from bbcexchange and packaged that way.



<< <i>So does this seller just buy boxes from BBCE and sell them on eBay? >>



I believe a lot of the bbcexchange stuff is from trades that he has done with bbcexchange

Big80s

<< <i>He's missing the 1979-80 box though. Wonder what that box would go for in BBCE shrink? >>



Steve had a box of 1979-80 OPC in early August. He was asking $20k for it, and I don't think it lasted long enough to make the website.

mygotta

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<< <i>He's missing the 1979-80 box though. Wonder what that box would go for in BBCE shrink? >>



Steve had a box of 1979-80 OPC in early August. He was asking $20k for it, and I don't think it lasted long enough to make the website. >>



How many in a box? 48 or 36? Also how many per pack. I would imagine the gum would ruin a lot of chances of getting a high end Gretzky, even if its in the middle.

Webb63

I've followed this guy's eBay auctions for a while now and he seems to have quite a few BBCE boxes...there's another eBay seller that goes by DRPHELPS (I think) that also sells a lot of BBCE boxes. Not sure these will sell at that asking price, but the BBCE wrap certainly brings a premium in EVERY auction I've watched. More examples of how Steve's pricing seems to be very reasonable.

Big80s

<< <i>How many in a box? 48 or 36? Also how many per pack. I would imagine the gum would ruin a lot of chances of getting a high end Gretzky, even if its in the middle. >>



I've used another thread I found as a reference for these, and here's what they said:

Year (Cards per Pack)

1989-90 7
1988-89 7
1987-88 7
1986-87 7
1985-86 7
1984-85 15
1983-84 10
1982-83 10
1981-82 14
1980-81 12

Frozencaribou

14 cards per pack in 1979-80 OPC. Not sure if there were 36 or 48 packs in a box. The notoriously bad centering and other production issues coupled with gum staining the cards makes opening these packs akin to flushing cash down the toilet.

1980's OPC may have secondary value in unopened form, but there is so much product out there it doesn't make any sense to buy to rip. Take 1986-87 OPC. You'd need to hit a PSA 10 Patrick Roy rookie to make anything off the box. Nothing else will get you anywhere close to $1700.

4SC has just destroyed the pops on all the 80's OPC.

Big80s

Sorry - I just realized 1979-80 was not included in the list I posted (how very helpful of me). I can confirm that there are 48 packs in each wax box.

mygotta

<< <i>14 cards per pack in 1979-80 OPC. Not sure if there were 36 or 48 packs in a box. The notoriously bad centering and other production issues coupled with gum staining the cards makes opening these packs akin to flushing cash down the toilet.

1980's OPC may have secondary value in unopened form, but there is so much product out there it doesn't make any sense to buy to rip. Take 1986-87 OPC. You'd need to hit a PSA 10 Patrick Roy rookie to make anything off the box. Nothing else will get you anywhere close to $1700.

4SC has just destroyed the pops on all the 80's OPC. >>



Just my experience of opening a pack of 1972 OPC baseball where the gum seeped through virtually every card. I can imagine, because its the same stock (but maybe different gum might be a saving grace) that a 79/80 pack of cards might get the same problems at ten times the cost per pack.

60sfan

Do 70's basketball packs have an problem with gum ruining the cards?

mygotta

<< <i>Do 70's basketball packs have an problem with gum ruining the cards? >>



I dont think the same because OPC had a different card stock which reacted differently to the gum than the grey card stock that Topps usually uses. This is not to say that there were no issues, but I don't think the severity is the same.

Frozencaribou

OPC gum was very different than Topps gum. It remember Topps gum to be brittle even in the year of issue, but OPC gum was softer and had more humidity in it as as rule. Sometimes the top card would even be sticky from the clear gum residue in the year of issue, sort of like corn syrup. I would imagine that most of the OPC gum damage would come from heat exposure, not from a reaction over time between the card stock and the gum. I've opened boxes of 70's OPC in which the top few packs were ruined but the internal packs were fine. Speaks to heat exposure in my opinion.

-Nathanael