A Rare Quarter

harveypb

AMRC

For those of us who are not Washington Quarter collectors, could you please tell us what we are looking at?

IrishMikey

Type C reverse? Not 100% sure from the images.

keyman64

Gonna just have to take your word for it...

Unknown

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harveypb

Yep.....Type C Reverse Quarter

harveypb

I cherried this piece years ago for $3.00 as a nice raw Unc piece. I have also cherried circ pieces in bulk silver,but not lately...

LanceNewmanOCC

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nice

takes 1 sec to recognize that one, esp in 65
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CuKevin

What is the diagnostic/variety we are looking at in the blown up image? Is it the middle leaf's position? And if so, how is it different?

Thank you.

MidLifeCrisis

How rare?

CuKevin

<< <i>How rare? >>



A plain MS-65 is worth $16 at auction. An MS-64 of this variety sells for about $300 at auction.

Is there doubling on Quarter Dollar? Or is it an illusion?

MidLifeCrisis

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<< <i>How rare? >>



A plain MS-65 is worth $16 at auction. An MS-64 of this variety sells for about $300 at auction. >>


Ok, thanks. But how rare?

ProofArtworkonCircs

<<The type c Reverse is most notably recognized by the sharp crisp leaves under the arrow clutch. The leaf tip closest to the arrow heads on the Type A reverse, tapers off into the field even on well struck coins. The weaker the strike, the more blending into the field the leaf tip takes. The leaf on the Type A is also round in comparison to the type c Leaf which appears longer and more tapered. The type c leaves are sharp and well formed regardless of strike and coin wear.

The leaf tip to the right of the Eagles Tail Feathers, rises above the tail feathers on the type c but ends below the tail feathers on the Type A reverse.

The tail feathers will have veins on the center if the feathers on the type c. The better the strike, the more well formed the veins are.>>

From a post by 19Ldys.

harveypb

The diagnostic on the tailfeathers are that they are well defined and have a line splitting them
from top to bottom. Have a look at a 1965-1997 quarter and you will see the same type of tailfeathers.
No doubling on the coin....

ProofArtworkonCircs

It turns out that the type C was only used on a minority of 1965-1967's.
That does not affect the tailfeathers and is not a reflection on the just previous valid post.

EDITED to show that this post was not a response to the just previous post.

Type2

Very nice pick.

MacCrimmon

Here's a TrueView image of the Type 'C' rev.

cmerlo1

Congrats!

This is a variety that everyone I know has found, but continues to elude me. I've looked at thousands of 1964-D quarters, and have never found one. One of my friends actually gave me the 4th one he found, just so I would have one.

Washington Quarters always seem weird like that; I keep hearing what a major rarity the 1952-D huge D is, but I've found 5 of them. My friend who gave me the 1964-D Type C has been looking for one for years and hasn't found one.

Manorcourtman

Interesting. Thanks for posting it.

MidLifeCrisis

<< <i>How rare? >>


It appears nobody can answer my question.

I get the impression that it's not really rare after all and I wonder why some people are willing to pay so much more for it.

Baley

the word "rare" is, of course, a relative term, and is often used more in a colloquial rather than absolute sense.

congrats on your find harveypb

ProofArtworkonCircs

This variety is usually described as a one die coin. One source says two. Perhaps they were all minted on the same day
If I remember rightly, back in the day, Bill Edwards and friends said it could be found 1 out of 12000 1964 D's.
(note for cmerlo1 - you are supposed to search tens of thousands not thousands).

One interesting feature of the coin is that the outer wing segments have 6 feathers instead of 5. This does not show up well in photos, but the Trueview illustration shows it nicely on the wing to the viewer's left. The right wing does not show in the photo, but if you had the coin in hand, it should be just as distinct unless that area is truly very lightly struck..

DennisH

<< <i>How rare? >>

The total certified population at PCGS is 75, which sems tiny for something that so many people have looked for so diligently for so long. Total pop for the 'regular' 1964-D is 1757.

ProofArtworkonCircs

<< that so many people have looked for so diligently for so long>>

According to Bill Edwards, It was not long enough. By the time the search was on, it was difficult to find a strictly uncirculated specimen.
Thus the pristine examples are scarcer than you might expect as compared to XF or AU.

Type2

Just asking do you want to sell it?

harveypb

I also have a PCGS slabbed MS64 piece that I submitted at the same time.
Also not attributed on the slab. Both not for sale at this time...

johnny9434

it looks like ya got a pretty good score there, congrats.

harveypb

The True- View Pic is of a Die State 2 of 3 die states.

Here are the diagnostics of the 3 die states.

1. No Diecracks
2. Diecrack across bottom of Washington's bust
3. Diecrack and die lump between the R & U in the word TRUST

I'll post pics of the Die State 3 later today.

harveypb

Here's a pic of the 1964 Reverse C die state 3 with the die lump between the R & U in the word TRUST.
I have only 1 piece of the late die state out of 17 pieces that I have accumulated.
Does anyone else have a piece with the die lump??

cointime

Photo with very slight die crack - looking at the extra large picture.
TrueView Notice the die polish line on my coin, makes me think the die crack was almost polished away

Ken

keets

this is a variety which was made "rare" or scarce primarily due to the melting of Quarters or the fact that probably thousands upon thousands are held in bulk Silver lots. with the advent of Variety collecting in earnest taking place during the last decade I imagine that in the coming years many, many otherwise common coins will be considered quite scarce due to melting. I know that during my brief time working in a coin shop around 2008-10 the rolls of 1964 Quarters that came in was unbelievable. even more common were 1964 Kennedy Half-Dollars.

bidask

Is the variety in the redbook?

harveypb

The Reverse B quarters and Reverse C are mentioned in the Redbook in a few sentences
but are not listed.