1850-0 $1 GOLD

coinkat

Well...

Seems we may have something here worth mentioning for those that may have an interest.

I have looked and conducted some research which seems to dictate that all of the 14,000 struck are all small 0 MM. While I am not conceding that point just yet, it seems that there are some that just do not meet that criteria. Recently, I came across two examples of this date and the mm for bothe are not the same. One has a slightly larger look with an O that seems larger than the typical O- but looks nice and round. The other is smaller- not by much- but has an oval look. The MM for these two is just not the same. Seriously...

I can appreciate pictures help- but I am not able to photograph these whereby the difference would be helpful.

So, considering what has been written, I have two questions:

Is there an ovall o mm for 1850?

or, is there a medium MM for the date that after all these years has gone unrecognized?

I appreciate how weird all of this sounds... but I see what I see and they are not the same

RYK

My cursory research supports your conclusion that no one has seen or described the oval MM variety. You may have a "discovery" coin.

That said, the RYK rule of variety collecting states that: "Any variety that requires a magnification glass to appreciate is of no interest to RYK."

A MM variety on a gold dollar would almost certainly fall into that category.

Perhaps you should send it to Doug Winter and have him take a look.

ambro51

Extensive die trapping took place on these coins and letters can change shape. I'll check my books.

MrEureka

John Dannreuther has done extensive research on Gold Dollar die varieties. You might want to contact him.

rhedden

Hopefully the oblong "0" doesn't stand for "Omega Man." Definitely double-check the authenticity.

This thread reminds me of the fellow with the 1898-o "micro-o" Barber half. Once thought to be unique, it turned out to be a big disappointment when the coin was discovered to have a skillfully added mintmark.

coinkat

In view of the last post, I thought it worthy to resurrect this this thread to advise that both coins were graded and are authentic. Both coins graded AU58. At best, there may have been a minor shift in the mm location not worthy of variety status.