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What would you do (bad eBay seller)?

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So I won an auction on EBay where I probably got a pretty good deal because the listing was a disaster ( bad pics, description, etc.). After I paid I get an email from EBay saying the seller wants to cancel the transaction. He writes he had a change in his finances and is unable to sell the card. I am pretty upset about this as I feel he just doesn't want to sell the card for the price the auction ended up settling. After a few days I decide to let it go. Sure enough a couple weeks later the same card is up for auction with a BIN option and a reserve. What recourse do I have after Ebay has closed the case? Would you leave neg feedback (can I still do this?). Would you email the seller and call him out? Needed to vent but also am wondering what to do about this unscrupulous seller. Thanks,

Steve
Steve

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  • zurbs17zurbs17 Posts: 442
    I've had this happen to me a few times. There have been some auctions that I've found, predicted I would win at the low minimum bid and then have the seller try get out of it then had it play out exactly that way. I never accept the cancel transaction and always pay. Some times that makes them send the item, some times it does not. If it doesn't I wait a bit and open a non receipt claim. I rarely leave negative feedback though.
  • r00kies101r00kies101 Posts: 263 ✭✭
    Rat him out here (if that will make you feel better) and move on. Not really worth the hassle or aggravation. I'm sure this has happened to most buyers here.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    I sold MANY a card for steals. Some quite a bit less than what I paid for them. Doesn't sound like a very good seller at all. Out him, so we won't have to deal with him!
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not exactly sure how the deal went down, but if you "let it go", that indicates you were letting him off the hook, even though you had misgivings. Was it a graded card? Can you be sure it's the same card if it was raw?

    I doubt that you can leave feedback, but if you can, a neutral would be appropriate in my mind.

    The bottom line on ebay is; a seller doesn't HAVE to sell the card any more than the buyer HAS to pay for it.

    You should let us know who this is, so that if he tries it on any of us, we can make it tough on him.

    Joe
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  • abcoltsfanabcoltsfan Posts: 802 ✭✭✭
    I had this happen a few weeks ago. I win an item at a good price over the July 4th holiday and after about a week seller still had not sent the card. I sent the seller a email just to check in not really worried about it given that it sold during the holidays. Seller said he would ship next day. However 3 days later I get a refund through paypal and nothing through ebay message systems. A few days later he sold the same card for $4 more than I won it. To my knowledge there is nothing that can be done if seller sends refund through paypal in regards to getting your winnings. I know that is not what is going in your situation. Just wanted to give a heads up if it is something you really want.

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  • GoDodgersFanGoDodgersFan Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭
    Get the refund and just move on. Good luck.
  • smokeybanditsmokeybandit Posts: 177
    I would message the seller and tell him you are prepared to purchase the card for your original winning bid. They will probably not
    respond but it would make me feel better to let them know I am aware of the new auction. After that I would just move on as there
    is really nothing else that can be done
  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    A change in a person's finances that would make him UNABLE to SELL the card..... that doesn't even make any sense. And then he relists it.

    I am not usually one to advocate negative feedback, but it is definitely warranted here if you still can. He absolutely deserves it.
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  • japhijaphi Posts: 223


    << <i>I would message the seller and tell him you are prepared to purchase the card for your original winning bid. They will probably not
    respond but it would make me feel better to let them know I am aware of the new auction. After that I would just move on as there
    is really nothing else that can be done >>



    Negative feedback for sure. I can't see how that would be considered a positive or neutral transaction. The feedback system is for cases like this - buyers should know this guy won't deliver unless he gets the price he's looking for.
  • smokeybanditsmokeybandit Posts: 177


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    << <i>I would message the seller and tell him you are prepared to purchase the card for your original winning bid. They will probably not
    respond but it would make me feel better to let them know I am aware of the new auction. After that I would just move on as there
    is really nothing else that can be done >>



    Negative feedback for sure. I can't see how that would be considered a positive or neutral transaction. The feedback system is for cases like this - buyers should know this guy won't deliver unless he gets the price he's looking for. >>



    If the transaction was canceled by seller and agreed to by the buyer I don't think Feedback is possible.
    But I could be wrong ?
  • japhijaphi Posts: 223


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    << <i>I would message the seller and tell him you are prepared to purchase the card for your original winning bid. They will probably not
    respond but it would make me feel better to let them know I am aware of the new auction. After that I would just move on as there
    is really nothing else that can be done >>



    Negative feedback for sure. I can't see how that would be considered a positive or neutral transaction. The feedback system is for cases like this - buyers should know this guy won't deliver unless he gets the price he's looking for. >>



    If the transaction was canceled by seller and agreed to by the buyer I don't think Feedback is possible.
    But I could be wrong ? >>



    I'm not sure either, but if possible I would hit that guy with a real neg comment to let other buyers know he's a chump.
  • slum22slum22 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the input everyone. Yes, when he said he had financial issues that prevented him from selling the card I thought that was a red flag. Wouldn't a financial problem make you more motivated as a seller? It wasn't like I was robbing him. I just got the card for the low end of its value range (about a 10 maybe 15% discount for what it probably normally sells for). I decided to let it go because I figured he may genuinely not be able to sell the card and I thought I would give him the benefit of the doubt.

    The eBay sellers ID is printsandcompany. They don't seem to be much of a card seller so I don't think anyone from the board will see this seller around much.

    The card in question is a BGS 8.5 1986 Fleer Jordan RC

    It initially sold for around $810 to me in a no reserve auction.

    I then saw the auction the other day from the same seller for the same card. It completed without sale on 8/9 with a high bid of $885 not meeting the reserve price.


    The eBay item# for the first auction was 300937236555 and the second was 300943377775
    Steve
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    First off I would never agree to cancel a transaction in that circumstance.
    If it was offered again at a higher bin I would go back and leave a neg.
    You list an auction on ebay you roll the dice, as Bobby will attest you sometimes (or 110% of the time in his case) lose money. Just the way it goes.

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  • smokeybanditsmokeybandit Posts: 177


    << <i>he said he had financial issues that prevented him from selling the card >>



    Meaning I owe alot of bills and want more then I got
  • JMDVMJMDVM Posts: 950 ✭✭✭
    I recently did a $35 BIN on a 1965 Topps Charlie Smith PSA 8 that normally sells for $175-$250 from one of the "big boys", jumping all over it. My friend predicted I'd never see the card. When the package arrived it contained a PSA 7. When I contacted them, they said they never had such a card, even though the BIN clearly showed a PSA 8. Normally their stuff is way over priced so I thought I got one over on them. Should I "rat" them out? After all they are just 3 brothers trying to make a living.....
  • japhijaphi Posts: 223


    << <i>I recently did a $35 BIN on a 1965 Topps Charlie Smith PSA 8 that normally sells for $175-$250 from one of the "big boys", jumping all over it. My friend predicted I'd never see the card. When the package arrived it contained a PSA 7. When I contacted them, they said they never had such a card, even though the BIN clearly showed a PSA 8. Normally their stuff is way over priced so I thought I got one over on them. Should I "rat" them out? After all they are just 3 brothers trying to make a living..... >>



    They made a mistake in the listing. So you now have to re-package the card, drive to the post office, wait in line and pay to mail the item back. 5-10 days later you are where you were 20 days ago. Time is money and that IMO is a negative transaction = negative feedback.
  • MauriceMaurice Posts: 1,136
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/141020395189?orig_cvip=true

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    Wait a minute... they have PSA 8 in the title, PSA 8 in the description, PSA 8 in the photo, a PSA 8.5 in the description's photo, and they send you a PSA 7?? WTF?
  • MauriceMaurice Posts: 1,136


    << <i>Wait a minute... they have PSA 8 in the title, PSA 8 in the description, PSA 8 in the photo, a PSA 8.5 in the description's photo, and they send you a PSA 7?? WTF? >>



    The PSA 8.5 is $550.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/130951660073?orig_cvip=true
  • BruceinGaBruceinGa Posts: 270 ✭✭
    this is confusing. I see from vcp that one psa 8 sold for $35. I looked at the listing and see that it was the same seller. The pic in the listing is a psa 8 but the pic shown in the description is the psa 8.5.
  • BruceinGaBruceinGa Posts: 270 ✭✭
    I've another question, should/will the $35 transaction be removed from VCP's data?
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I recently did a $35 BIN on a 1965 Topps Charlie Smith PSA 8 that normally sells for $175-$250 from one of the "big boys", jumping all over it. My friend predicted I'd never see the card. When the package arrived it contained a PSA 7. When I contacted them, they said they never had such a card, even though the BIN clearly showed a PSA 8. >>



    I think they mean "We never had a PSA 7, so there's no way that we sent you a PSA 7."
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