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1984 Fleer Update Thread

jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭
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I guess there is not an official thread for this set and I was wondering if anyone else is collecting it. Please ignore my post if you don't care about this set!

Completing this set in PSA 10 is one of my main collecting goals. When I was in the prime of my collecting years, this was one of those unobtainable sets for me. Of course, at the time, the big 3 cards were incredibly expensive and highly sought after. I never owned any of them as a kid. I'm also partial to this set because it contains the clear #1 Puckett rookie and that's my main player. The set also has some good HOF/star power and is small enough that it seems obtainable to me (132 cards). I understand that this set is not "rare", but it is scarce relative to its contemporaries and does have some condition issues that make a few of the cards really difficult in gem mint. Anyone who collected in the 80's must have a special place for this set in my opinion.

Any other '84 Fleer Update collectors out there?

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    bishopbishop Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭
    Have the "set" but never seen the cards inside the box

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    jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭
    I would never be able to resist taking a look for some gem mints in that box!

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    macboubemacboube Posts: 336 ✭✭
    I just got back a bunch from a lg sub, and although there are some solid 10's, there may be need for a few crack outs..............

    21519500 0193840120 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-12 TONY BERNAZARD 10 Cert Printed
    21519501 0193840130 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-13 BRUCE BOCHTE 10 Cert Printed
    21519502 0193840160 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-16 FRED BREINING 7 Cert Printed
    21519503 0193840270 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-27 ROGER CLEMENS 9 Cert Printed
    21519504 0193840270 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-27 ROGER CLEMENS 10 Cert Printed
    21519505 0193840270 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-27 ROGER CLEMENS 9 Cert Printed
    21519506 0193840290 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-29 RON DARLING 9 Cert Printed
    21519507 0193840290 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-29 RON DARLING 10 Cert Printed
    21519508 0193840290 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-29 RON DARLING 9 Cert Printed
    21519509 0193840340 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-34 DENNIS ECKERSLEY 7 Cert Printed
    21519510 0193840430 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-43 DWIGHT GOODEN 9 Cert Printed
    21519511 0193840430 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-43 DWIGHT GOODEN 10 Cert Printed
    21519512 0193840430 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-43 DWIGHT GOODEN 9 Cert Printed
    21519513 0193840540 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-54 ART HOWE 10 Cert Printed
    21519514 0193840590 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-59 RUPPERT JONES 10 Cert Printed
    21519515 0193840760 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-76 MIKE MASON 6 Cert Printed
    21519516 0193840800 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-80 JOE MORGAN 10 Cert Printed
    21519517 0193840830 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-83 PHIL NIEKRO 9 Cert Printed
    21519518 0193840930 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-93 KIRBY PUCKETT 9 Cert Printed
    21519519 0193840930 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-93 KIRBY PUCKETT 10 Cert Printed
    21519520 0193840930 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-93 KIRBY PUCKETT 9 Cert Printed
    21519521 0193841020 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-102 PETE ROSE 9 Cert Printed
    21519522 0193841020 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-102 PETE ROSE 9 Cert Printed
    21519523 0193841020 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-102 PETE ROSE 8 Cert Printed
    21519524 0193841060 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-106 TOM SEAVER 8 Cert Printed
    21519525 0193841080 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-108 MIKE SMITHSON 8 Cert Printed
    21519526 0193841140 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-114 RICK SUTCLIFFE 9 Cert Printed
    21519527 0193841160 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-116 DERREL THOMAS 8 Cert Printed
    21519528 0193841230 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-123 TOM WADDELL 10 Cert Printed


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    jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭
    Nice hits on the big three!! That Bochte is pretty tough too but a few have popped recently. The toughest seems to be the dang Carmelo Martinez!
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    RedHeart54RedHeart54 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭
    God, what an amazing set that was. Any player who would have a breakout year and who also had a card in this set became a hot commodity. Aside from the big three, there were many cards that helped this become a near $1000 set: Mark Langston, Jose Rijo, Alvin Davis, and of course Bret Saberhagan. Heck, even the veterans such as Pete Rose, Tom Seaver, Joe Morgan and Dennis Eckersley were $15-$20 apiece. Jimmy Key was a hot card. It just went on and on.

    I was a Pete Rose guy as a young collector circa 1988 and I had never even seen his '84 Fleer Update card until I spied it first thing at a show one day. I told my old man it would not last long. $15 later I owned it.
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    jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭
    Agreed! The set is really deep in 80's card history. Steroids, cocaine, fading stars, HOF with early death, gambling, and more. I enjoy cards like Saberhagen and Langston that seemed for a moment they could become iconic, but never did. I think my big draw to this set is just how unobtainable it was to me as a kid. I rarely saw cards from this set at shows, and when I did they may as well have been priced at $1M because I couldn't afford it. It was sort of like the 80's Star basketball cards to me. I saw them in the price guide, but knew I could never own any of them. Now I collect both. Admittedly, I still collect the steroid era guys. It's my guilty pleasure. These were the cards I enjoyed as a kid. While I certainly have lost some respect for these guys I still think they have a big part in baseball history and in my own experience. I'm not sure how these cards will be treated 20-30 years from now, we will see. I still love the 1984 Fleer Update Clemens in PSA 10! I am a little ashamed to admit that pick up high grade Bonds cards too! Don't judge me!!

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    jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭
    Just popped Clemens, Puckett, and Gooden x 2 in PSA 10!!!!

    jbox
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    gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    Wow - what a submission! Where did you get the cards you subbed?
    I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy!
    Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
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    shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭✭
    I remember this set being untouchable for me price-wise when I was younger. It's a nice feeling to be able to acquire cards later in life that weren't in your budget as a kid. Another nice thing about this set is that it seems to be fairly easy to get 10's given the sturdy card stock.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
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    jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭


    << <i>Wow - what a submission! Where did you get the cards you subbed? >>



    The Clemens and Puckett 10's came from a set off ebay. I subbed three different Gooden's and I'm not sure which of the three was from this set.

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    jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭


    << <i>I remember this set being untouchable for me price-wise when I was younger. It's a nice feeling to be able to acquire cards later in life that weren't in your budget as a kid. Another nice thing about this set is that it seems to be fairly easy to get 10's given the sturdy card stock. >>



    The centering can be tough and there are several cards in the set that are extremely difficult for various reasons (centering, print defects, etc.). I'd say the Carmelo Martinez is the most notorious and is a POP 1 in PSA 10. The fact that these sets were not sealed makes it a crap shoot when buying.

    jbox
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    TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496 ✭
    I never owned the set or was into the cards as a kid. Way too expensive.

    -Before the insert craze of the early 90's, this really was one of those rare sets. I think the rumor was, 45,000 sets made or something. Versus the million or so 87 topps cards. For some reason, I never saw many 84 fleer update cards in california. I don't remember them very much in the late 80's, early 90's. Maybe it was because none of the star players were playing on the west coast. Like how the 84 donruss mattingly was popular in new york. Some of these cards were probably more popular regionally.

    I remember when the clemens and puckett were some of the hottest cards in the hobby. This was when rookies were exploding, and the nolan ryan rookie was $1,000.

    Remember when beckett use to list each individual card from sets in the 80's? One set would take up half a page. Alot of up arrows on 84 fleer update. Weren't the commons $3 or $5 a piece or something?

    Looking back at the set, too many pitchers in it. Too easy for one of them to get injured or flame out.
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    heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    I always liked this set, I can remember this set selling for 500 bucks at one time.
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    jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭
    22006585 MINT 9 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-27 ROGER CLEMENS Card
    22006586 MINT 9 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-27 ROGER CLEMENS Card
    22006587 GEM MINT 10 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-43 DWIGHT GOODEN Card
    22006588 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-43 DWIGHT GOODEN Card
    22006589 GEM MINT 10 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-93 KIRBY PUCKETT Card
    22006590 GEM MINT 10 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-93 KIRBY PUCKETT Card
    22006591 MINT 9 1984 FLEER UPDATE U-93 KIRBY PUCKETT Card



    Just popped a couple more Puckett 10's! Both of these came from sets off ebay along with the two Clemens and the PSA 10 Gooden.

    jbox
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