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1982 TCMA Hawaii Islanders - Tony Gywnn

Hello friends,

I'm interested in this card, but I've read that it was "widely" counterfeited. Can any of you XRC experts out there help me figure out what to look for to avoid the fakes?

Thank you in advance!

Jeff
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Jeff

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  • MinorLeaguerMinorLeaguer Posts: 511 ✭✭✭
    I am sure there are more, but one thing I've noticed on some of the ungraded examples that raises suspicion as well as those slabbed in GEM Elite holders are overly wide borders, meaning on the L/R, the amount of space between the outer black border and card edge is too wide. The wideness really stands out when the card is very well centered. If contemplating a purchase, make sure you compare to the example on page 6 of the "Post your favorite PSA 10" thread. Those are what 1982 TCMA border width should be. Here's a GEM. Compare this GEM to the PSA 10 in the thread I mentioned. This is a lame attempt when you compare side by side:

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  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
    Thank you for chiming in Chris! Great information. If anyone else has experience with these cards and can shed any insight on the counterfeits out there - I would very much appreciate it.

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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    Big80's

    These minor league cards from the 80's were and are extremely easy to counterfeit. While many of us can tell you what to look for, it is still easy to miss. I highly recommend you purchase this card already graded from one of the Big 3....just my .02 cents
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  • MinorLeaguerMinorLeaguer Posts: 511 ✭✭✭
    This one is out on ebay right now. It's just god awful:

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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    Duplicate
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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This one is out on ebay right now. It's just god awful:

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    Words can't describe how bad that is. Might as well take a polaroid of one and stick that in a holder....God awful is right

    Hey Big80's, did you ever pick this card up? Were you looking for it graded and any particular grade?
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  • royalbrettroyalbrett Posts: 620 ✭✭✭
    I bought the team set from a local dealer back in the early 90s. Legit cards, but after I looked more closely at the Gwynn a couple of year later, I noticed a corner ding. image
    Yeah, I uploaded that KC icon in 2001
  • skrezyna23skrezyna23 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭
    Not sure to laugh at the quality of the card or PCA putting it in a slab.
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