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Hombre with some delectable unopened

you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

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  • no1cpno1cp Posts: 76
    I actually bid on a couple of those auctions, but they quickly got too rich for my blood. Out of curiousity, why do you suspect they may be opened/searched? Is it because he didn't take any pictures of the back of the packs? Some of the boxes he's selling are cello... from what I understand, those are really difficult to search through.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Surprised at how high these boxes are going for. If anyone here wants a 1980 Topps super cello box for just $700, please feel free to pm me. image


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • no1cpno1cp Posts: 76


    << <i>Surprised at how high these boxes are going for. If anyone here wants a 1980 Topps super cello box for just $700, please feel free to pm me. image >>

    Is it searched? image
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think what will be interesting is to see the closing prices of these auctions.

    A rising market eventually brings out supply if it exists.

    This could easily be a guy who has sat on sealed packs for a long time and is deciding to cash in.

    The raging bull market in unopened packs is not going to stop because of one small seller but it will be interesting to see over the coming months if more collectors decide it is time to take the money and run.


  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    Ooooooo, rainbow sprinkles and fuzzy baby kittens, if anyone wins one of these boxes, please post your rips so I can critique your cards!

    Hugs and Kisses, XOXOXOXOXO!!!

    ~BBG~
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,284 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Out of curiousity, why do you suspect they may be opened/searched? >>



    I don't suspect that. Echoing what Dpeck said, I'm simply interested in the closing prices.

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Surprised at how high these boxes are going for. If anyone here wants a 1980 Topps super cello box for just $700, please feel free to pm me. image >>

    Is it searched? image >>



    Well, one of the packs has this guy named Rickey Henderson on top.. image

    The 77 wax box has a couple bid retractions on it and is still at $1,100+. Wow!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • ConstantineConstantine Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭
    If those 8 and 17 feedback bidders are legit (I have no idea either way), then they are helping this seller out quite a bit with the frequent and early bidding. At the end of they day the final high bid will take the items, but as a seller, you gotta love the frequent bidders.
  • mdkuommdkuom Posts: 969 ✭✭✭
    The back scan of the '79 wax tray looks like it shows some brown spots on it. If so, the condition of the other products could be compromised as well.
  • no1cpno1cp Posts: 76


    << <i>I don't suspect that. Echoing what Dpeck said, I'm simply interested in the closing prices. >>

    My bad. =/ I thought you had written "detectable". haha. Oops. Sorry!
  • psychumppsychump Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭
    He needs money for his new hobby!
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  • 1all1all Posts: 511 ✭✭✭
    Wow..... <shaking head>..... just wow.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If those 8 and 17 feedback bidders are legit (I have no idea either way), then they are helping this seller out quite a bit with the frequent and early bidding. At the end of they day the final high bid will take the items, but as a seller, you gotta love the frequent bidders. >>



    Exactly! Snipe already!! LOL:!


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,284 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My bad. =/ I thought you had written "detectable". haha. Oops. Sorry! >>



    It's all good bud. Who knows, maybe I should have written detectable. image

    Anyone see what his 82T box went for? It's not showing up in the completeds yet.

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My bad. =/ I thought you had written "detectable". haha. Oops. Sorry! >>



    It's all good bud. Who knows, maybe I should have written detectable. image

    Anyone see what his 82T box went for? It's not showing up in the completeds yet. >>



    $212.50 plus $15 shipping was the hammer price.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $212.50
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How does that price compare to recent BBCX selling prices?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How does that price compare to recent BBCX selling prices? >>



    The last time Steve got a sealed case in (about 2 months ago), box prices were $180 plus shipping, IIRC.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Be prepared for more price hikes on his end in the short run for sure.


    This is 18% higher then the last boxes he sold and I believe he generally ships for less then $15 per wax box so if that is the case it is closer to 20%.


    I guess it is a blessing and a curse for many image




  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Be prepared for more price hikes on his end in the short run for sure.


    This is 18% higher then the last boxes he sold and I believe he generally ships for less then $15 per wax box so if that is the case it is closer to 20%.


    I guess it is a blessing and a curse for many image >>



    Actually, I believe shipping was $18 for the BBCE box I bought.

    There was some crazy bidding patterns going on in these auctions, including several bid retractions, so I'm not quite ready to base new pricing on these results.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Be prepared for more price hikes on his end in the short run for sure.


    This is 18% higher then the last boxes he sold and I believe he generally ships for less then $15 per wax box so if that is the case it is closer to 20%.


    I guess it is a blessing and a curse for many image >>



    Actually, I believe shipping was $18 for the BBCE box I bought.

    There was some crazy bidding patterns going on in these auctions, including several bid retractions, so I'm not quite ready to base new pricing on these results. >>




    You obviously can't use one sample as a guarantee of a price floor but dealers track these selling prices and if they up their prices 10% right now I would suspect the product gets sold. There is high investment demand right now for unopened and that money wants to get put to work even if the prices are not opportune for buying.


    The next few months are definitely going to be interesting to watch.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pricing right now on 1982 Topps baseball wax boxes has been averaging about $165 a box of late for clean non-X-out boxes. I'd say that $180 was a good price for Steve's boxes as they were coming from a sealed case and weren't X-out boxes, either. $212 is definitely higher than mean right now, and more a result of the curious bidding pattern than anything else, imo.

    Recently Closed 1982 Topps wax box auctions


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am just a by stander and certainly not the expert on wax prices but what do you find as a curious bidding pattern here?

    I see three bidders above $200.


    There are plenty of card auctions that go for more then the trend from time to time on EBAY.


    Since BBCX sells items on EBAY they obviously save the fees when they sell direct on their website so that has to be taken into consideration to I think.



    idders: 6Bids: 13Time Ended: Jul-06-13 17:35:37 PDTDuration: 5 days
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    Bidder Click here to know more about anonymous user IDs Bid Amount Bid Time
    e***1 ( 8160Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) US $212.50
    Jul-06-13 11:37:04 PDT

    m***v ( 37Feedback score is 10 to 49) US $210.00
    Jul-06-13 17:07:50 PDT

    m***v ( 37Feedback score is 10 to 49) US $205.00
    Jul-06-13 17:07:37 PDT

    o***1 ( 180Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $200.00
    Jul-05-13 19:08:08 PDT

    e***1 ( 8160Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) US $200.00
    Jul-06-13 11:36:55 PDT

    a***3 ( 8 ) US $163.55
    Jul-06-13 08:23:35 PDT

    a***3 ( 8 ) US $158.55
    Jul-04-13 12:54:00 PDT

    s***n ( 142Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $156.00
    Jul-04-13 11:53:27 PDT

    a***3 ( 8 ) US $153.99
    Jul-03-13 03:48:02 PDT

    u***u ( 3895Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) US $150.99
    Jul-02-13 08:30:23 PDT

    a***3 ( 8 ) US $150.99
    Jul-02-13 14:40:28 PDT

    a***3 ( 8 ) US $145.00
    Jul-02-13 13:30:40 PDT

    a***3 ( 8 ) US $140.00
    Jul-02-13 13:30:31 PDT

    Starting Price US $75.00
    Jul-01-13 17:35:37 PDT
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The bidder with an 8 FB has retracted several of their bids on other auctions by this seller. Not saying the seller has any connection with that at all, but my radar gores up when I see someone with that high number of retractions in such a short period of time.

    Also, if you follow pricing on these boxes (which I do), you know that $212 was way high for this box in any case, unless (maybe) if it were coming from BBCE.

    Check the completed auctions for these boxes and you will see for yourself.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also, you can only retract your bid under certain circumstances. Learn more.

    This is incorrect. Bidders can retract for any reason under the sun unless it's within the last 24 hours of the auction, and even then you can still retract for any reason if it's within the hour. Learn more.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    I agree with Tim, these prices are way out there. Until I see a lot more sales even close to these numbers, I'll pass.
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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Also, you can only retract your bid under certain circumstances. Learn more.

    This is incorrect. Bidders can retract for any reason under the sun unless it's within the last 24 hours of the auction, and even then you can still retract for any reason if it's within the hour. Learn more. >>





    I just copied and pasted that from the auction. There is a link that says learn more. The learn more is in blue and is a hyper link that takes you here.


    Learn more link
  • CubsKiller99CubsKiller99 Posts: 507
    There are hundreds of guys like this out there.

    Bid 'em up boys.
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  • WalterSobchakWalterSobchak Posts: 2,096
    Wow. It wasn't all that long ago you could purchase a '78 Topps wax box from BBCE for about 600 bucks.
    Now it's looking like it might cost you twice that to buy one from just some guy.
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    definitely reached that stage when drool turns to foam.

    next up: inoculations.
  • DodgerfanjohnDodgerfanjohn Posts: 491 ✭✭✭
    The hammer prices are rather bonkers, yes?

    The 17 feedback guy had really high max bids and got beat nonetheless by the same guy...

    The 78 box went at $1100+ and the 77 box at $1500+

    Unless I'm interpreting the bidding wrong, there were only 3 bidders over $1200 on the 77 box and only 2 bidders over $955 on the 78.

    Curious whats driving the desperation.
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Curious whats driving the desperation. >>


    Perhaps it's not desperation and people are finally factoring in what they can sell the wrappers and gum for separately.
    Who is the Golf Card Guy?
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