I started enjoying the hobby more when.............
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eBay helped a ton. Nearly every card shop in LA was a complete rip off...overgrading and overpriced. Frank and Sons was great because it cut the cost of new product and supplies in half....then PSA opened up eyes to proper grading, and now eBay has opened the marketplace wide so that the entire sportscard market is very close to a true supply/demand equation.
I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority, but I'm also glad there's way fewer product lines than 10 years ago.
<< <i>When I quit caring what cards were worth. Essentially I just collect what I enjoy.
eBay helped a ton. Nearly every card shop in LA was a complete rip off...overgrading and overpriced. Frank and Sons was great because it cut the cost of new product and supplies in half....then PSA opened up eyes to proper grading, and now eBay has opened the marketplace wide so that the entire sportscard market is very close to a true supply/demand equation.
I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority, but I'm also glad there's way fewer product lines than 10 years ago. >>
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Don’t get me wrong, collecting as a kid was pretty fun because it’s like almost every kid collected there for a moment but we all went by the price guide so even though me and my friends didn’t have high dollar cards, they still had value the same was as today (except it was a lot less back then) and now I understand the hobby better than I did as a little guy in the 80's.
we watched games on TV while filling in Topps sticker books with packs we obtained at the AM-PM Mini Mart.
those were halcyon days. neither of us gave a rat's hindquarters what stuff was worth. we bypassed Canseco & the late 80's Fleer Basketball completely.
Back then I had a lot of expensive items in my collection (although not nearly as expensive as some of you guys) and always wondered if I was going to lose money if I spent too much on one card.
Now that I don't spend a lot of money on items it has become a lot more fun.
In addition, this site has made my collecting so much more enjoyable.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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<< <i>When I quit caring what cards were worth. Essentially I just collect what I enjoy.
eBay helped a ton. Nearly every card shop in LA was a complete rip off...overgrading and overpriced. Frank and Sons was great because it cut the cost of new product and supplies in half....then PSA opened up eyes to proper grading, and now eBay has opened the marketplace wide so that the entire sportscard market is very close to a true supply/demand equation.
I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority, but I'm also glad there's way fewer product lines than 10 years ago. >>
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How is the Frank & Sons show these days? The last time I was there I bought a 1955 Topps All-American lot and a bunch of loose 1996-97 Stadium Club BKB packs for $1.50 each. The packs were incredible, I pulled several Jordan inserts.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>When I quit caring what cards were worth. Essentially I just collect what I enjoy.
eBay helped a ton. Nearly every card shop in LA was a complete rip off...overgrading and overpriced. Frank and Sons was great because it cut the cost of new product and supplies in half....then PSA opened up eyes to proper grading, and now eBay has opened the marketplace wide so that the entire sportscard market is very close to a true supply/demand equation.
I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority, but I'm also glad there's way fewer product lines than 10 years ago. >>
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How is the Frank & Sons show these days? The last time I was there I bought a 1955 Topps All-American lot and a bunch of loose 1996-97 Stadium Club BKB packs for $1.50 each. The packs were incredible, I pulled several Jordan inserts. >>
It's much more oriented to toys and other collectible items. There's still some sportscards guys there including the wholesalers. I don't buy much new product these days save a complete Topps base set and the random few boxes at Target. Supplies have gone up in price...I think a 100ct 9 pocket ultra pro box is around $13 now, but that's still cheaper than anyone on eBay once you factor in shipping.
I forgot one more thing that made me happy:
I've been dating a lady since December. I picked up a number of vending boxes since then in order to boost up 70's and 80's sets I had. Add into this the stuff I got in group breaks and I had a bunch of stars and semi stars I didn't want to just keep in shoe boxes. So I've kept my stars in binders alphabetically. Imagine my surprise when she insisted on helping me and actually liked sorting and putting the cards into the binders, making fun of the funny names on the way and nearly spazzing when she got to Yastrzemski due to Fever Pitch being one of her favorite movies.
I like that her OCD and my OCD mix well together.
2. When I decided to collect cards and not holders, in other words to buy for eye appeal and not numerical grade.
After I bought my first graded card, I became addicted and have been hooked ever since. Ebay/graded cards are a hell of a drug!
<< <i>1. When I stopped with the Registry sets, and returned to what collecting was for me at its purest: the best cards of the best players.
2. When I decided to collect cards and not holders, in other words to buy for eye appeal and not numerical grade. >>
This.
Never been to Frank and Sons, have to check it out sometime but not the most scenic part of town.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
ALL MY PSA SETS
PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)
PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)
PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
I REALLY enjoy this hobby!
Great thread!
Joe
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
It's a different kind of enjoyment today. When I was a kid, I bought the newest cards when they were issued and could care less about Nolan Ryan or Hank Aaron. I wanted to get Pirates cards. Now, I don't collect the new stuff and only focus on vintage. The challenge now is finding high grade examples rather than just trying to find a card in any condition to fill in a set. And I have to say I'm more thrilled with locating a high grade raw star card than a high grade raw Pirate common. That doesn't mean I enjoy collecting any less though.
<< <i>When I got away from the PSA registry. For all the good it has done for PSA and its brand, it's terribly competitive and not for me. >>
It doesn't have to be. I'm content just building PSA 8+ sets and don't care where I rank. I was #2 or #3 on the 1971 registry after I bought a high grade set but I had no problem selling off all those 9s and keeping my 8s. It's just a matter of whether you can contain the competitive juices when building graded sets.
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<< <i>When I got away from the PSA registry. For all the good it has done for PSA and its brand, it's terribly competitive and not for me. >>
It doesn't have to be. I'm content just building PSA 8+ sets and don't care where I rank. I was #2 or #3 on the 1971 registry after I bought a high grade set but I had no problem selling off all those 9s and keeping my 8s. It's just a matter of whether you can contain the competitive juices when building graded sets. >>
I agree here. It's as competitive as you want it to be, if that makes sense. I'm Looking at Registries of Derrick Thomas, Lance Parrish and Scott Stevens(when PSA adds him, soon I think). But instead of trying to be #1 or anything like that I'm going to submit my raw cards of these players, and whatever grades I get, I'll log in. My own personal touch. I'll pick up a few already graded cards but the majority are going to be my own. 7's, 8's, whatever they may grade.
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Never been to Frank and Sons, have to check it out sometime but not the most scenic part of town. >>
Frank and Sons Yelp
Upcomming signings at F&S
Prohibitively expensive signings IMO, but whatevs.......
Parkings a disaster. Be prepared to search for 20 minutes for parking unless you get there really early on Saturday(I presume you are not a sadist and will not be attempting to navigate westside to City of Industry on a weekday)
Its hot as heck during the summer. Nerds + heat = not good aromas.