Ted Williams and Willie Mays Autos. What do you think?

markmac

I have had these two cards in my collection since the early 80s and I don't know where I got them at. I rediscovered them the other day and was wondering what you guys think. Are they real and would you get them graded. The Williams card is in rough shape and the Mays appears to be an Opeechee Deckle edge card.
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vintagechris

The Williams is not real. Many long time collectors believe that style Mays is ghost signed from the early 80's, although some have been authenticated as real.

MooseDog

Both no good in my opinion.

onebamafan

i do not like the Williams either...sorry

churchiscool

bad and bad. there's a magic signing coming up if you still need the card done pm me i'll give you more info when i have it.

orioles93

both look bad

GR

Sorry both are bad

markmac

Thanks for your opinions. I wasn't expecting a lot but I did hope at least one was real.

PSamp77

Not to pile on but I agree both are bad, The Mays looks like a popular signature a family member of his did.

markmac

I do want your opinions good or bad. I don't want to waste any money grading these if they are no good and I don't want to sell them if they are no good. I have nothing in these so there's nothing to lose.