Need Large Cent attribution help

I don't know too much about Large cents. Picked up this 1843 a few weeks ago. The 1852 several years ago. Was wondering if somebody could help me attribute these.





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The 1852 is tougher without really good photos or seeing it in hand. Die markers are hard to make out. It looks like N-8 to me.
Lance.
It looks like the 1852 may be an N-6, as the "1" is embedded
in the bust, but the condition of the piece limits a certainty on this.
Just my WAG.
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