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I'll have to start again from scratch on a 1969 set

Believe it or not I've gone into contract with Superior to auction my 1969 set in there June auction. I'll be keeping my White Letters and 6 other cards. (nothing special just cards I like) . I also added 20 new 9's to the set that I bought at Ft. Washington Friday. A few were Pop 1's. It was tough but what the hell I've done this set many times before and I'll just start all over again. Ron and Ray good luck completing and hopefully it wont take me too long to get back in the Top Five. The final cards in the set will be updated by next Friday.

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  • Please, everyone ...

    a moment of silence as one of our own cherished 100% completed sets is moving on.











    Hopefully the new owner will register it with us and keep hope alive.
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    Halley,
    It wasnt 100% complete but with the cards I just got back from PSA and bought at Ft Washington it would have been 85-88% complete. I can really appreciate anyone who can finish a set complete. Its really a monumental task.
  • GASPIPE,

    How's the show? I am heading up Sunday , hope there is still something left then.

    BOB
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry to hear you're selling it off. Will you be auctioning it as a complete set or breaking it up into smaller lots or individual cards?
  • GASPIPE:

    I am suprised they would auction a set that is 80% complete, so I wonder if they are combining your set with some other cards or selling it as is? Do you know?
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    80% Complete all graded, he wanted the set believe me. There going to give it a whole Page. The set will have an SMR of over $18000. Alot of the cards are also undervalued in the SMR. I think the set will go for $20000 to $25000. I hope.
  • qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    Bob - Good luck with the results, hope you get your pound price for it. Let us know when the auction is set to run....jay
  • thegemmintmanthegemmintman Posts: 3,101 ✭✭
    Good luck with your results Gaspipe26. It sounds great.
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Bob,

    Wow! That's some news. I'm working on that set myself and I'm approaching the 50% mark. It sure would have been nice to have them break up the set and at least individually sell the 1 of 1 and 1 of 2 PSA 9's, but I understand completely why they chose to sell it as one lot. Maybe a dealer will win it and break it up and sell it.

    Thanks for sharing this and I hope you come out way ahead on your sale.
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    There are some very tough cards in the set. The set will be listed as a whole. If anyone chose to buy it the breakup would easily be $22000-$25000.
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Bob,

    Is that '69 Aaron PSA 9 going to be a part of the sale? It's a beauty. I wish I could scrape up that much money and buy it from you. Unfortunately, now isn't a good time for me. I'd be interested in knowing its current status for future reference.
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    The Aaron should be in a 10 holder and yes its the cornerstone of the set.
  • FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    Bob,

    I think I speak for everyone that is building a graded set when I say that I'll be watching this auction closely. I don't think a set this large with as high a percentage graded has ever been auctioned off as a block. I hope that you get your $25k but I'll have to keep it quiet. Otherwise, my wife will be contacting Superior with a 72 set for their fall auction.image
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

    lynnfrank@earthlink.net
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Agreed -- I think this is the first major late 60s/70s set to be auctioned off as a whole, nearly completely graded, with a ton of high grade cards to boot.

    Should be very interesting to watch.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • I listed my '69 set on eBay about a year and a half ago with a fairly high reserve. It had about 80 cards graded mostly PSA 8 with a handful of 9's at the time and ended up at about $6500 with the reserve not met. That was before building PSA graded sets was popular and not many people recognized the value of graded commons at that time. Plus, eBay probably isn't the best place to auction big ticket items like that. I don't think Bob will have any problem reaching $20k with his set (including the 15% buyer's fee).
    Please visit my eBay auctions at gemint
  • Bob,

    I am flabbergasted but not shocked. Your premium set has been a source of envy to us all that collect 69's. I have seen you do this on a smaller scale before so I knew the possibility could exist.
    Thank you first of all for the help you have provided to me on this set in the past.
    I am looking forward to your rebuilding efforts and your eventual rise back into the top 5.
    Your knowledge of this set is a great source of information to all who collect it and I hope you will continue to participate and be active here on this message board to post valuable feedback.
    Finally good luck on the sale, I am sure we will have either a first rate collector join the 69 ranks before long due to this, or get access down the road to some of the great cards which have held positions in your set through breakup.
    Thanks again. I consider you a friend.

    RayB69Topps

    Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    Ray,
    Thanks for the message. I'll get another one built pretty quickly I think. I'm still going to be a tough bidder on future 69's . Thanks again. I'm looking for WL's you need too.
  • I'm not looking forward to that (being outbid on low pop cards) image But I've also benefited by the cards you sell. Good luck with your rebuilding efforts. I'm sure you'll have another world class set in no time. By the way, I see you just picked up the Oliva AS PSA 10. Are you adding it to the set you're selling or keeping it for your future set?
    Please visit my eBay auctions at gemint
  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    The Oliva AS is for the new set. That is if the seller ever contacts me. I've emailed him 3 times and he hasnt replied back.
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Bob,

    I'm a bit perplexed. You are selling a set and then starting on a new one. Do you mind me asking, what's your rationale? Do you think the market has peaked? Do you enjoy "the chase" more then the set? I'm just curious, but if it's for personal reasons then you have no obligation to declose your reasons. It would seem to me that you may not recover some of those nice 9's like the Aaron and other low pop cards.

    PS, I'll be appearing in the '69 Registry in the next few days.
  • Dude - Its a thrill to have another class act join the 69'ers.
    RayB69Topps
    Never met a Vintage card I didn't like!
  • Dude - What's your average grade and how far along are you?
    Please visit my eBay auctions at gemint
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    69topps8,

    I have two "10's", 180 - "9's" and 139 - "8's". That's 49% complete unweighted. I plan to turn in another 40 cards for grading this month. Of those 321 cards, 250 came straight out of my set. I've been working on it for 12 years and started submitting cards to PSA in 1999.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,105 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, impressive mix. Do you have all the stars graded? How's your 85 Brock, 78 Satriano and 110 Shannon? Those are a few of the toughest ones.
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Gemint,

    My set is about 85% complete. I started in 1990 or so and worked on it continuously since then. I tried to buy only well-centered, razor sharp examples. The big problem as you know is that many cards are impossible to find centered and/or in high grade. For now, I'm trying to make my '69 Registry Set (along with all my other sets) either well-centered 9's and high-end 8's. I plan to submit about 35-40 more that are probably all high-end 8's and after that, I'm pretty much done with submitting cards from my set. The remainder are either low 8's or 7's or have diamond cuts, etc and I'd rather wait and hope to find better examples rather than just grade them and pad my set ranking. I don't have the cards you mentioned simply because I never found any that met my expectations. Also, like you, I'm working on the same sets you are, except I'm also working on '67 Topps baseball plus some football, basketball and Kellogg's baseball sets. All of them are lifetime projects. It may be years before I complete this '69 set.
  • Dude,

    It's about time that one of the premier 1969 sets in the country will be listed in the registry. You'll find it to be quite enjoyable. At the moment, I still have plans in making it to Chicago this year. I hope we can get together again. While I don't plan on finishing the 1969 set until August of 2010. The pursuit will continuously be challenging and filled with surprises.

    Sincerely,

    Ron
    Ron Sanders Jr.
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Ron,

    Thanks for your kind words. The list of '69 Collectors is a Who's Who of great collectors with some great sets - especially yours. I hope to have my set complete by July 2010. image

    Yes, we will hook up at the National this August. I'm looking forward to it very much!
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