What type of cards would you choose to submit to SGC
bowlarama
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There is a dealer here in my hometown that chooses to have all his cards graded by SGC. He says that he consistently gets better grades when submitting to them vs PSA. To date I have only used PSA and have submitted close to 1000 cards.
my question for the experienced collectors/dealers is:
"What type of cards, if any would you submit to SGC"?
my question for the experienced collectors/dealers is:
"What type of cards, if any would you submit to SGC"?
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To buy or have graded just for my own PC that I'm not going to ever sell, I prefer the SGC holders look
much more than PSA and I choose SGC for those.
For cards that there is any chance I'm going to sell and honestly that's most of what I have
graded these days -- I choose PSA grading for better market prices some time down the road.
DaveB in St.Louis
Personally I have become a PSA snob. I just like the consistency of the look in my collection plus the potential resell value when I need to move some stuff. I think you have questions when post war till 1989 stuff is NOT in a PSA slab. I know I have always subscribed to the concept of if it could be in a PSA slab at the same grade it would with $100+ cards from that era.
More specifically to answer your question, I would submit to SGC in two cases:
1. When PSA won't slab your card. Not meaning trying to get trimmed or altered cards by but PSA does not slab everything that SGC or BGS/BVG does. I recently had a 1920 Ruth that I cracked out of a SGC slab that PSA would not grade. It was hand-cut and they wanted more of an edge.
2. T206 cards
I pretty much will have everything else in a PSA slab even if it drops the grade by 1 point. When I bid, I drop my amount by 1 point and then crack expecting it to be one grade lower when returned. It is crosses with the same grade then that is a bonus in my book.
That said, most every time I start a pre-war set I look at selling history of SGC vs. PSA... for what I collect at least, there have been far more PSA versions offered up.
There are a couple of sets I would really like to have in SGC holders for aesthetic reasons, but given I don't submit cards myself, I would never complete them with what's typically available in the market.
In fact, that's the sole reason all of my graded sets are in PSA slabs: availability.
Snorto~
<< <i>If I have a card that is o/c but has sharp corners, I would consider sending it to SGC. They don't use qualifiers, so that is a good option. >>
great point
ALL MY PSA SETS
ALL MY PSA SETS
1952 Red Man Set
aconte
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<< <i>If I have a card that is o/c but has sharp corners, I would consider sending it to SGC. They don't use qualifiers, so that is a good option. >>
great point
I agree with this. I do use SGC as qualifier avoidance. I have several cards that would have either had a qualifier or otherwise been downgraded 2 grades if requested NQ w/ PSA where the SGC grade was preferable (e.g., in some situations, I'll take an SGC 8 for a card that might either get a 9(OC) or a 7(NQ) from PSA).
Other times I use SGC are for cards that I submit to PSA that come back twice w/ either EOT, minsize, or miscut, and most of the time they get a grade from SGC.
There are a lot of foreign and oddball issues that SGC grades but PSA does not, and I send those to SGC.
Also, SGC will holder larger size items than PSA, so if I want something graded that does not fit a PSA holder, to SGC it goes.
Lastly, it is significantly less expensive to submit something that fits a T3 holder to SGC than PSA, so unless PSA decides to do a T3 holder special, SGC gets my business on items that size.
<< <i>As far as centering is concerned, SGC seems to be more lax than PSA. I did a quick ebay search for 1979 Topps SGC gem mint and found many examples that would never cross to PSA 10 because of centering. >>
Besides the obvious reasons this guy's opinion carries no weight, There are just as many if not more ugly PSA 10's that would never make the cut it at SGC as well.
If the card and its condition is less important than the label on it, I go PSA
If the card and its condition is the main concern I go SGC.
Theres pros and cons for both, The top two in the industry.
<< <i>red man
1952 Red Man Set
aconte >>
Now THAT is why I keep SGC for my own PC.
Great-looking set aconte!
DaveB in St.Louis
I do have an order there for their SGC Authentic special.
Appreciate the compliment.
aconte
I had some Red Man when I was about 10 years old that I got from my uncle
and lost them of course.
An underrated set IMHO.
DaveB in St.Louis
<< <i>red man
1952 Red Man Set
aconte >>
I love that Sky Birds set! That's the most recent set I was looking into SGC vs. PSA pops. Did you pick most of them up graded or submit them yourself?
Snorto~
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<< <i>red man
1952 Red Man Set
aconte >>
I love that Sky Birds set! That's the most recent set I was looking into SGC vs. PSA pops. Did you pick most of them up graded or submit them yourself?
Snorto~ >>
I picked up 69 of the sky birds in one shot from this guy. They were his duplicates and I was happy to get them to start a new set.
Rgold Sky Birds
Maurice,
Too bad.
aconte
Ive viewed your 52 Red Man Set multiple times in the past. No doubt its one of the nicest one will see.
While I haven't been working on it as much lately, Ive had mixed results in getting PSA cards to cross to my
55 Topps All American Set. Thankfully This one I didn't have to cross.
Nice Sammy card. I always liked the 55 All Americans with the Thorpe card being a favorite.
aconte