Did I overpay

esebille

Picked up a couple cards off 4sharpcorners last nite:
PSA 9 Johnny Bench 68 rookie $1139
PSA 10 Tim Raines 81 topps rookie $251.

Any thoughts appreciated.

gameusedhoop

Spending that kind of $$ you should have a subscription to VCP...VCP site
For $15 a month you get access to prices on most item for over 4 years.

PSA 9 Bench: Average Price: $974.33, that is for the lat 12 months of sales, although the last 3 were...$1,885.00, $1,000.00, $1,100.00

PSA 10 Raines: Average Price: $280.41...$249.50, $279.99, $255.00

Be careful buying from 4sc, some claim that their grades may be a little generous given their volume. The prevailing sentiment is "buy the card, not the holder". If you are near the average price and you have a superior card then you have done very well, if it is a "slider" looking grade, then you have probably overpaid at the average. A good way to get true thoughts on the cards would be to post the pics here with the grade and cert #'s obscured and ask the boards what they think that the grade is. It may be brutal, but at least you'll get an honest answer as to what it looks like.

esebille

They looked good in the scan...I just never see the bench rc come up, and i saw the last one pwcc sold for that 1800 price so I thought I had to take it.

NVbaseball

You only overpaid if the value you get from owning those cards is less than $1390

But if that was the case, you wouldn't have paid that much. So it is extremely doubtful you overpaid. Almost certainly you got a good deal

Boopotts

<< <i>You only overpaid if the value you get from owning those cards is less than $1390

But if that was the case, you wouldn't have paid that much. So it is extremely doubtful you overpaid. Almost certainly you got a good deal >>




I'm sure the OP was asking if he overpaid relative to the market price. What you're talking about is consumer surplus, and that isn't something he would need to ask the boards about.

Exodus

<< <i>Don't listen to those who suggest that certain submitters get preferential treatment ... that notion is unfounded and is just meant to cause trouble.

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There is evidence to suggest that 4SC gets lenient grades.

I have a PSA 9 with a bent corner I got from them last year.

I've heard others on this board say the same.

My advice, examine your card when it arrives. If you're happy with it, then all the best !

3BoyzTrading

4SC has great pries, especially when they have sales. I hope you enjoy the cards!

otwcards

Overpaying is a relative term. If you are happy with the condition of the cards, they fill a need and you are satisfied with the price you paid, then you did fine. You can usually find something cheaper, but sometimes you sacrifice quality and, in the end, personal satisfaction. Buy the card independent of the grade and you'll be happy regardless.

The one thing that I've learned over the years is that you will rarely go wrong if you buy quality over quantity and do your research. I made the mistake many times of buying for the sake of buying and it took years to learn the difference. Now, while I still make some impulse purchases, I tend to focus on the best of the best (to the point that my discretionary funds will allow) and resolve to pony up when there is limited data and the item is just too difficult to value. It has proven a wise modus operandi and in the cases where I've thought I overspent, I've found that there are others that are still interested at higher levels. You can rarely duplicate quality.

bobbybakeriv

<< <i>Overpaying is a relative term. If you are happy with the condition of the cards, they fill a need and you are satisfied with the price you paid, then you did fine. You can usually find something cheaper, but sometimes you sacrifice quality and, in the end, personal satisfaction. Buy the card independent of the grade and you'll be happy regardless.

The one thing that I've learned over the years is that you will rarely go wrong if you buy quality over quantity and do your research. I made the mistake many times of buying for the sake of buying and it took years to learn the difference. Now, while I still make some impulse purchases, I tend to focus on the best of the best (to the point that my discretionary funds will allow) and resolve to pony up when there is limited data and the item is just too difficult to value. It has proven a wise modus operandi and in the cases where I've thought I overspent, I've found that there are others that are still interested at higher levels. You can rarely duplicate quality. >>



I totally agree, but to be honest, I've never overpaid. I buy what i can afford and what i want.

SlugSports

"Overpay now or Overpay later", that is my motto!!

pclpads

I sense a little buyer's remorse. Unnecessary! Bottom line: if you're satisfied with your acquisitions, that's what counts. Doesn't matter who paid less. Both are high end cards. You can buy either all day long in lesser grades. Congrats!

JoeBanzai

I think you did just fine!

The Bench rookie is one fantastic card! I have always wanted one, a "9" is awesome.

The Raines in a "10" is also a great card, he deserves to be in the HOF.

I will bet in a couple of years you will be happy as can be that you pulled the trigger.

Joe

galaxy27

You'll be sitting very pretty when Raines walks through the doors of the Hall. Oh, and the Bench rookie isn't a bad acquisition either.

jay0791

VCP is only a guide. Many higher quality cards are getting way over vcp.
I recently paid considerably over for hi quality cards. If u can get a hi qulaity cards for the card at vcp consider ita good deal.

I recently also bought a psa 10 rains RC from 4SC and it looks fine.
I have gotten some duds from them and shake my head ...but also some true screaming blazers.

otwcards

I think the Raines is undervalued in respect to the difficulty of the issue and his potential to be a HOFer. The sleeper card of his is his OPC RC.

jmmiller777

Good job, good purchase. Both will appreciate over time!

MBMiller25

With some of the closing prices we are seeing on cards over the last 6 months or so, I am not sure how anyone can really judge whether they overpaid or got a deal. You can throw VCP out the window as of recent. I think if your happy with your purchase, that's all that really matters. You bought top of the line RC's from a HOFer and a possible HOFer. I think you did fine.

ThoseBackPages

I think you did well!