1990 topps George Bush Card only 100?

spazzy

If there is only 100 cards of this issue, why are they all over ebay? Was there a find recently that no one wants to talk about so they can keep the prices high? I dont get it There are more of these than real frank thomas nnof real cards on ebay.

stanforddude

I've noticed the same thing with the 1990 Upper Deck Mike Witt black box. Don't see any for years and then about 5 or so have shown up in the last few months. What's the deal?

illinifan912

I got suckered into the witt deal. Bought one for over $700 thinking hey thats a $1200 min well 4 showed up and I got torched. I guess its because ebay is the only place to sell them.

japhi

The sales history on the Bush card is interesting.

PWCC sold an SGC 8 for 6K in Feb, a number of them sold after that but no where near the price of the PWCC auction. In fact another SGC 8 sold a weeks later for 3.9K, another 8 sold 4 weeks after that for 2.9K and a few PSA 7's a few weeks later for under 2k. Talk about volatile. At this rate that card will be under a K by the summer!

addicted2ebay

The card sales are dropping but 41 has not been doing to good lately so I bet now's the time to pick one up because when he passes they are sure to spike.

stormtrooper80

I wouldn't trust ANYTHING made by Upper Deck to be rare. I'm sure some employee ran off a few dozen sheets of those Witts at some point

addicted2ebay

<< <i>I wouldn't trust ANYTHING made by Upper Deck to be rare. I'm sure some employee ran off a few dozen sheets of those Witts at some point >>



Say what?

ReggieCleveland

I believe he's referring to the 89 UD Griffeys being printed by the sheet.

Dakillo

I wouldn't trust ANYTHING made by Upper Deck to be rare. I'm sure some employee ran off a few dozen sheets of those Witts at some point

If anyone cares to delve into it, there is a fantastic book written in 1995 by Pete Williams named 'Card Sharks'. It details the inception of Upper Deck and the subsequent rise to the top of the manufacturing market. Further, there are many footnoted subplots that point to the ownership of the company printing sheets of Griffey rookies and Dale Murphy reverse negatives (among others).

It really is a good read for anyone that collected during the hot mess of later '80s baseball cards.

FootballCrazy

I was at the Philly Show in Fort Washington years ago and there was a guy in line at PSA submitting Hundreds of 1989 Upper Deck Griffey's. He had a shoebox full in CS1's all ready to go. I was amazed at the time, but then heard the rumors mentioned above. This is one of the main reasons why I do not collect modern cards or at least do not get caught up in paying crazy prices for certain cards.

LarkinCollector

Uncut sheet including the Witt error on eBay now: Witt Sheet

I'm sure somebody has a shoebox full of these as well....

Mdube16

<< <i>Uncut sheet including the Witt error on eBay now: Witt Sheet

I'm sure somebody has a shoebox full of these as well.... >>




Forum Member had a few...might be him selling

witt thread

LarkinCollector

<< <i>Forum Member had a few...might be him selling

witt thread >>



No bend advertised on these, but could be.... I still wouldn't pay that kind of money for an error that's obviously got a lot more copies available than the NNOF. If Upper Deck goes out of business, I could see the market flooded with some of these 'rare' errors/SPs, similar to Pro Set going under.

CubsKiller99

<< <i> I wouldn't trust ANYTHING made by Upper Deck to be rare. I'm sure some employee ran off a few dozen sheets of those Witts at some point

If anyone cares to delve into it, there is a fantastic book written in 1995 by Pete Williams named 'Card Sharks'. It details the inception of Upper Deck and the subsequent rise to the top of the manufacturing market. Further, there are many footnoted subplots that point to the ownership of the company printing sheets of Griffey rookies and Dale Murphy reverse negatives (among others).

It really is a good read for anyone that collected during the hot mess of later '80s baseball cards. >>



Great read.

Will forever cure you of the urge to buy an Upper Deck card.

elsnorto

<< <i>No bend advertised on these, but could be.... I still wouldn't pay that kind of money for an error that's obviously got a lot more copies available than the NNOF. If Upper Deck goes out of business, I could see the market flooded with some of these 'rare' errors/SPs, similar to Pro Set going under. >>



Or Collector's Edge.... the market was flooded with supposedly extremely limited inserts for years after CE went under.

Snorto~

lostdart58

BBCE has sold or in one case given away at least 5 Bush cards in the last year...........

For a time it seemed like every major auction house had one in their auction

Prices have come down on them for sure.........but still command 4 figures