What are the grades of these 1909-SVDB Lincoln's? ***grades posted in first one***

coinsarefun

No cheating...please. For those who know and still feel compelled to say something, just say "I know"

I would like to know what everyone grades these two Lincoln's?

Or which one is graded higher. One sold for $44k in 2012.

Just an exercise in grading skills






Okay....here are the grades.

The first one is MS66+RD Sold in 11/29/2012 $44,063.00 Heritage


The Second one is MS67RD Population 9 and PCGS price guide is $100K


There you have it. I did this because I saw the MS66+ on Facebook and thought it was dynamite and stunning example.
Frankly I was surprised that this one was not graded MS67. It may be a slightly weaker strike but not by that much....hence the 66+
maybe instead of a MS67 as it takes that coin from a $44K coin and doubles the price

So, that's my story and take on it.....thanks for your input gang!

commoncents05

I'll guess. 66+ and 65. Both RD. Top one is gorgeous.

-Paul

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>I'll guess. 66+ and 65. Both RD. Top one is gorgeous.
-Paul >>


sounds good to me. i've seen em b4 but don't recall the grades/prices. they are beasts, no doubt
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CuKevin

My guess is top is graded higher. I'd say 66+ and 66. Obviously top is red, but is the bottom one red? If so, can someone tell me why please?

JustNeedCoins

66 for the first, 66+ on the second

SoCalBigMark

Both 66+?

GrumpyEd

They're both sweet looking coins.

The color on the first one is killer.

Very equal but the second one might have a slightly better strike, first one is a little weaker on the shoulder and on the rev than the second one. I'd grade the second one higher but I like the first one better.

DennisH

66 and 66

SUMORADA

65 RD
63 RB
.......jmo.......both pretty coins.

tlbrown

65RD
66RB

lusterlover

I'll WAG - 66+RD and 66RD. First one is killer due to the original skin.

bolivarshagnasty

I'm going to guess both are red 66+ coins. Both appear to be high end 66's. JMHO

lkeigwin

<< <i>I'll WAG - 66+RD and 66RD. First one is killer due to the original skin. >>


I agree with this.
Lance.

1Mike1

I'll guess 66 RD for the first one. The second one I would guess 65+ because of the softness of the strike in the hair, tie, and the breast coat. For the color probably RD but heading towards RB. The fields look nice on both coins and from the photos it looks like they both still have some nice luster.

daOnlyBG

I have a feeling one of them is MS67RD. I think it's the bottom one. MS66+RD for the top one.

Edited to add: My reasoning- though the difference is phenomenally minute, the top one has an ever-so-slight change in luster color, hence why I'd give the bottom one the 67, and the top one a 66. As the top one has nice eye appeal, I'd move it up to 66+

Type2

1st Mat PR67RD
2nd MS66RD

johnny9434

1) ms 65
2) ms 66

i like. its nice to see nice coin like that

ColonelJessup

Tricky, Steph, tricky... "One sold for $44K" does NOT mean the other didn't sell for more.

Nevertheless

Based on something resembling an internally consistent logic system that may have no relationship with reality I'll go 66+RD and 66+RB because I'm now convinced this woman is messin' with us. Though the apparent disturbance above N and E in ONE on coin #2 makes my doubt even my own illogic. Other logic tells me a 67RB would be an even cooler way to mess up my head. This entire self-induced and self-inflicted conundrum is sometimes described as "pretzel logic".

I consistently embarrass myself on business strike Lincs, or so my friends used to tell me when I would buy their rejects at auctions and ask why they weren't in on a pretty likely upgrade. Often turned out they were running me up

SmEagle1795

I'll wager:
#1 - 66+RD
#2 - 67RD

and if they are, those are two extremely expensive cents, clearly worthy of a time machine to cherrypick through some rolls.

TireKicker

67RD and 66+RD

Kove

67 RD
66 RD

mdwoods

Same coin different lighting?

Cocoinut

If one of them sold for $44k last year, it must be a 67. I like the first one better, so I'll say that's a 67RD; the second coin is a 66RD.

Jim

ColonelJessup

67RD's used to be worth about $100K. Have they come down that much?

coinsarefun

<< <i>67RD's used to be worth about $100K. Have they come down that much? >>





No

1Mike1

OK when do we get the answers?

coinsarefun

Grades are posted in the original.

daOnlyBG

Oh sweet, got it right. Practice is slowly beginning to pay off... Anyway, those pennies are just stunning. And stunning expensive, too. I've seen an S-VDB in MS65, and even that one was drop-dead gorgeous to see in person. I can't imagine what it'd be like to see one in MS67. Do you know who owns these, by chance?

Trime

MS65+RD
MS 66 RB

MidLifeCrisis

I like the top one better from the pics.

But this is a classic example of a condition rarity that I would not pay a lot of money for. I've been perfectly happy with the ones I've owned over the years, ranging in grade from 63 to 65, all RB.

illini420

I'd bet that a nice PCGS MS67RD example would get quite a bit more than $100k if one came to auction.

1Mike1

I would have never guessed 67RD on the second coin. I like the 66+ coin better - 66 thousand time$ better.

lusterlover

<< <i>I would have never guessed 67RD on the second coin. I like the 66+ coin better - 66 thousand time$ better. >>



Agreed, and there's some chatter on the upper reverse and on the N of the 67 that surprises me for it to be in that holder.

IrishMikey

<< <i>Same coin different lighting? >>


Doubt it -- different mintmark positions. The top coin is a Die 3, the bottom is a Die 4.