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4 Kennedy Half Errors with questions and Pictures

First I have a 1973 D Kennedy Half with what I thought was a 135 degree rotated die, I now think it is 120 degrees. Here are some pictures:

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It weighs 11.36 grams which is ok for a 70's Half.


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Now I have used the drop/ring test and it is fine and sounds normal. I have found a magicians coin before so I wanted to check that out. The other issue would be the edges, to look for a seam/weld etc. I did not have a good enough camera so I bought a QX5 Microscope for $27 shipped and I am real happy with it. Here are some close ups of the edge,

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So the question is, is it real? I think so and I have heard of one other for this year at a pretty good website.
Rotated Die Census

1865 Kennedy Half 40% Silver 110 degrees cw UNC R6
1965 Kennedy Half 40% Silver 180 degrees N/A R6
1967 Kennedy Half 40% Silver 137 degrees ccw N/A R5
1967 Kennedy Half 40% Silver 170 degrees N/A R5
1967* Kennedy Half 40% Silver 176 degrees cw UNC R5
1972-S Kennedy Half Dollar 180 degrees PROOF R7
1973-D Kennedy Half Dollar 120 degrees N/A R7
1973-S* Kennedy Half Dollar 180 degrees PROOF R7
1979-D Kennedy Half Dollar 178 degrees cw N/A R7
1984-D Kennedy Half Dollar 180 degrees CH.XF R6
1984-S Kennedy Half Dollar 90 degrees cw PROOF R7
1984-S* Kennedy Half Dollar 180 degrees PROOF R7
1988-P* Kennedy Half Dollar 180 degrees UNC R5

If this is real, I wonder of the value in it. It would seem that rotated die Kennedy's are certainly not common and I think this 1973D is in AU+ condition. My wife found it and is excited and so am I.

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Next up is one of the most beautiful tones Kennedy's I have seen. It is a 1971D and in EF shape but the toning is what grabbed her eyes. It is blue/purple and almost all over the obverse. The pictures can not do it justice. The reverse however is not really that toned but has an issue that I just don't get.


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The issue is right on top of the birds head. It is like a die spill of some type. I do not know the term but maybe it was a grease issue.

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I will zoom in to see if someone can recognize what this is,


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So what do you think it is? If an error any ideas where I could find more information about it?


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Third, I have another 1971D with what I think is a grease issue but the wife doesn't buy it. I have looked for a similar one and all I can come up with is what is called an indent coin, see here :

Indent Coins


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Well here is what I have,


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Another Picture of it...

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Well close up doesn't really help me because I know not what I should be looking for...


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Any idea what type of error this is? Could it be a Indent? I do not think it is Post Mint Damage but who knows?


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Finally a 1776/1976 Half with either a double die or machine doubling. I just do not know how to tell.


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It seems to just be one the date, no where else. My guess is machine doubling but the thing that get'e me is how my wife could have spotted this with the naked eye? It just blows me away.

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EDIT : Sorry about the large pictures, linked wrong ones. Corrected now.
"A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.

“I want you to remember that no * ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb * die for his country”

Comments

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,919 ✭✭✭✭✭
    bump to the top for info....not my series.

    The rotated die looks authentic to my eyes.

    The Purple example,,,,,not my cup of tea as it's not pretty to my eyes.

    The grease filled die seems like that could be the possiblilty on the '71 missing date.

    bobimage

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  • EthanEthan Posts: 315 ✭✭
    One more, since I have the QX5 now I can now get to 200X. I love this cheap kids toy!

    A 1967 SMS Kennedy with what I would call a die spillage but there must be another term for it..

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    This is where the QX5 rocks as I can not get a decent pic with my Digital Camera, note the word 'United' between the T & D.

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    Any ideas on what this is and what could have caused it? Does it make the coin more collectible?

    Thanks

    Ethan
    "A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.

    “I want you to remember that no * ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb * die for his country”
  • EthanEthan Posts: 315 ✭✭
    Thanks Bob!

    I now its not your cup of tea, neither was it mine but the coloring on this 71 is spectacular. I just wish I could find that kind of toning on a silver one.
    "A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.

    “I want you to remember that no * ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb * die for his country”
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  • EthanEthan Posts: 315 ✭✭
    Thank you Fade2Black!

    I appreciate the feedback
    "A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.

    “I want you to remember that no * ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb * die for his country”
  • CoinflipCoinflip Posts: 845 ✭✭✭
    check here
    If still unsure on anything or authentication you can contact Mike Diamond HEre
    He has fast turnaround and very respectable, and usually if you email him, he will tell you what it is or worth sending in, cheers
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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    The '67 SMS is a strike through debris, too small to be detected by Mint QC and also very minute to a collector. Collectors are looking for strike throughs you can see with the naked eye. Nice conversation piece you can hand to someone who has a loupe.

    Keep on collecting....your on the right track.
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  • EthanEthan Posts: 315 ✭✭
    Anyone have an idea what the rotated reverse 73 is worth? My wife found it and I want it to be the most valuable Kennedy we have found.....
    "A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.

    “I want you to remember that no * ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb * die for his country”
  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on recent eBay sales, it's likely worth well under $10
  • EthanEthan Posts: 315 ✭✭
    Fair enough but it is the same seller and he is selling <15 degrees. The one that was 180 was for much more. I remember reading somewhere that it needs to be at least 30 degrees to be collectible or something like that.

    I am pretty sure mine/Hers is 135 degrees.

    I could not find an equal on eBay at all.
    "A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again.

    “I want you to remember that no * ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb * die for his country”
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Agree with what they said.

    1, Is a rotated die

    2, Looks like solder on it, maybe it was used as a jacket pin then someone removed the pin.

    3, Probably damaged, to rule out being a struck through you should look close at the reverse in that same area and see if there's any sign of it bulging from the dent. A strike through probably won't extend over the rim like that so it's probably only a dent.

    4, Machine/strike doubling

    5, A small struck through
    Ed

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