Rip the case?

ReggieCleveland · April 4, 2013 9:13AM

I'm looking to see if any of you rippers can convince me to rip some/all of this 1990 Fleer Canadian baseball wax case.

First, I should say, I'm absolutely leaning toward leaving it unopened. If the case were still factory sealed then I wouldn't even be posing the question. Also, I won't be selling any boxes and if convinced to rip, won't be selling any singles. I'm really looking for a reasoned argument in favor of ripping so the gratuitous "YEAAAAAAHHHHHH RIP IT!!!!!!" posts will have no bearing on my decision.

So... ?

Foo3112 · April 4, 2013 9:15AM

If you plan on selling, you'll probably make more money selling the case sealed and as a whole.

mlbfan2 · April 4, 2013 9:19AM

YEAAAAAAHHHHHH RIP IT!!!!!!

ReggieCleveland · April 4, 2013 9:19AM

I agree with you. While I have no desire to sell now I'm sure someday I will and whole as a case would definitely be best. Just too bad it's no longer factory sealed.

tmgrnzx9r · April 4, 2013 9:19AM

1990 Fleer.... Nuff said. Rip it. Even though the Canadian adds to it a bit. Still rip that sucker

ReggieCleveland · April 4, 2013 9:19AM

<< YEAAAAAAHHHHHH RIP IT!!!!!! >>

ReggieCleveland · April 4, 2013 9:20AM

<< 1990 Fleer.... Nuff said. Rip it. Even though the Canadian adds to it a bit. Still rip that sucker >>

Why?

cpamike · April 4, 2013 9:32AM

This may come as a shock to everyone, but I say keep those boxes sealed. Even though the sealed has been broken on the case, they are still case fresh boxes.

Of course, what do you except from someone still sitting on 3 1991 Fleer rack boxes.

CDsNuts · April 4, 2013 9:54AM

I just busted 5 boxes and after the 2nd box I was bored to death. Collation is horrible too. Keep it sealed.

CDsNuts · April 4, 2013 9:55AM

Also, for those that don't know 1990 Fleer Canadian is a very scarce product as far as 90s stuff goes. These are $70 boxes all day long.

bziddy · April 4, 2013 9:55AM

I say you skip that case and rip the sweet 1989 donruss box instead.

ReggieCleveland · April 4, 2013 9:59AM

<< I say you skip that case and rip the sweet 1989 donruss box instead. >>

That was actually an 1989 Donruss Canadian box and it got ripped. I keep the packs that have a HOFer showing and did pretty well. Out of maybe 6-7 boxes so far I found a pack with Griffey, Smoltz, and Biggio rookies showing. Unfortunately, no Schilling or Randy Johnson but I still have another 6-7 boxes to go.

Lee is right about the Fleer Canadian, really difficult. Someone's been selling single boxes on ebay lately and most of them go for $85/each (I think one ended at ~$62).

bziddy · April 4, 2013 10:01AM

<< 

<< I say you skip that case and rip the sweet 1989 donruss box instead. >>

That was actually an 1989 Donruss Canadian box and it got ripped. I keep the packs that have a HOFer showing and did pretty well. Out of maybe 6-7 boxes so far I found a pack with Griffey, Smoltz, and Biggio rookies showing. Unfortunately, no Schilling or Randy Johnson but I still have another 6-7 boxes to go.

Lee is right about the Fleer Canadian, really difficult. Someone's been selling single boxes on ebay lately and most of them go for $85/each. >>

Are those OPC boxes and packs there as well?

ReggieCleveland · April 4, 2013 10:05AM

Yeah. I'm a bit of a Canadian wax junkie. I don't have any unopened Topps or US Donruss/Fleer, just OPC and Canadian Donruss/Fleer. The shelf to the left of this picture is top to bottom unopened OPC wax (but just 80s and early-90s stuff, wish it were 70s).

CubsKiller99 · April 4, 2013 10:22AM

Rip it -- rip it good.

Open that case, and every pack in it.

tsalems1 · April 4, 2013 11:44AM

Nice case!

prthd · April 4, 2013 12:01PM

<< Nice case! >>

There he is, I was waiting for you to chime in.
Rip it for the love of Tom.

tsalems1 · April 4, 2013 12:06PM

<< 

<< Nice case! >>

There he is, I was waiting for you to chime in.
Rip it for the love of Tom. >>

I never looked for the 1990 Fleer Canadian. I knew it was limited.
I might have to get me some on my next trip up north

corncobb · April 4, 2013 7:41PM

All unopened product was made to rip

Dpeck100 · April 4, 2013 8:35PM

What if any pulls are potentially in the packs that would make it worth ripping?

Any big cards that come to mind?

ReggieCleveland · April 5, 2013 1:01AM

I haven't tracked any single card sales so I can't speak intelligently on the matter. There's no Frank Thomas in the set (damn you, 1990 Donruss and Fleer), so I'm guessing the "big cards" are Sosa, Griffey, Ryan, etc. Probably a decent score if someone were to rip/grade/sell to player collectors but that doesn't interest me in the least.

So no one can make a good case for ripping?

mlbfan2 · April 5, 2013 1:17AM

<< So no one can make a good case for ripping? >>

Fleer made a really good case for ripping when they made that 1990 Fleer Canadian case.

YEAAAAAAHHHHHH RIP IT!!!!!!

Dpeck100 · April 5, 2013 1:58AM

Keep it sealed. I looked on EBAY and a single box recently sold for $85 and there were not any earth shattering final selling prices on graded singles.

If the unopened pack market continues higher I would think this would participate to some degree and a case would just add to the potential.

CubsKiller99 · April 5, 2013 4:31AM

Low population graded so far -- for whatever that's worth.

You've got Sosa, Walker -- but no Williams or Thomas. Ryan and other stars in PSA 10
could also do really well.

You could rip half and save half unopened.

mygotta · April 5, 2013 5:00AM

1990 Fleer I found an ugly design. 1991 fleer is even uglier. And 1992 is nicer looking but gets redundant quickly. And its a boring set.

mygotta · April 5, 2013 5:03AM

<< Low population graded so far -- for whatever that's worth.

You've got Sosa, Walker -- but no Williams or Thomas. Ryan and other stars in PSA 10
could also do really well.

You could rip half and save half unopened. >>

I would see what 4SC has in PSA 10's first. I have gotten PSA 10's from them as low as $7 with shipping.

mygotta · April 5, 2013 5:04AM

Ok. Now I feel more informed. Since when did Fleer do Canadian baseball?? And how do they differ from the US counterpart?

CubsKiller99 · April 5, 2013 5:44AM

Now you got it. The Canadian is a different beast.

I've never seen a box myself in captivity.

ReggieCleveland · April 5, 2013 6:05AM

Unlike the Donruss Canadian, Fleer Canadian actually has a discernable difference to the cards. They have "Printed in Canada" on the backs so the cards are identifiable.

Largentcollector · April 5, 2013 9:33AM

The print run was only 14000 cases. (I think?) I have 5 cases if anybody is interested.

ReggieCleveland · April 5, 2013 10:55AM

Just out of curiosity, how did you find the 14000 cases number?

Largentcollector · April 5, 2013 11:45AM

I think I read it on this forum. From a fleer Canadian collector not sure if the number is correct it would be nice I someone would confirm it.

ReggieCleveland · April 5, 2013 11:48AM

I can't remember seeing any production numbers for anything in the 80s or 90s (that didn't have seeded/serial #'d cards) so I can't imagine where anyone would have gotten that number. My guess is that they guessed on the US Fleer production and then guessed on the Canadian production number and did some dime store math.

Largentcollector · April 5, 2013 12:36PM

I'm going to try to do some research on a print run.

softparade · April 5, 2013 1:02PM

Rip it. I would have torn that $$$it up. I would tear up a 52 Topps case too lol.

Live -n- RIP

Boopotts · April 5, 2013 1:30PM

So far as I can tell there aren't any low pops (save the Ryan/Mike Scott, which is a pop 0 in PSA 10), so I'd sell the boxes individually. A Ryan/Scott PSA 10 would probably fetch $200, but that doesn't sound like nearly enough to go balls-deep into a case rip.

GR · April 6, 2013 6:35AM

my case for ripping: ...you know you want too (;

Stone193 · April 6, 2013 7:45AM

<< Also, for those that don't know 1990 Fleer Canadian is a very scarce product as far as 90s stuff goes. These are $70 boxes all day long. >>

Hiya Lee

Had no idea - thanx.

Based on that? I'd keep that thing intact.

ReggieCleveland · April 6, 2013 7:53AM

<< my case for ripping: ...you know you want too (; >>

That's just it, I really don't. I have no desire to have a 90 Fleer Canadian set. I suppose a bunch of the key cards would be cool but with a case it's not a matter of if you get them but how many? I have no desire to submit these cards and sell them. But having a case of difficult product is a good feeling. And let's face it, when it comes to baseball cards in the late-80s/early-90s there really isn't much that's tough to locate.

Really, I just wanted to see if someone could offer up a strong argument for ripping.

BBG, I missed your post previously. Yes, I bought it this way.

Rip the case?

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