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1954 Topps Hank Aaron PSA 8 NM-MT Final Price $7,205.57...

1954 Topps Hank Aaron


A lot of final bids on this one.

This looks like a very nice example.


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  • Wow. That card is not centered very well, and it STILL went for a huge premium.
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
    -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14

    *1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
    *Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
  • Average price is $5131 so this reaching that price is pretty amazing. The highest this card ever sold before was just in January and that was for $5856!
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After closer examination the centering does look a bit off but the card has a very clean front and bright colors.

    Either way another example of how tough it is to win cards in this current environment.

    Using VCP as a Bible will make it impossible to win cards at the moment.

  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    The two snipes are what pushed it to the "stupid" level. If one of those two people don't bid, then it ends at a more normal level. But you know what auction promoters say - "All it takes is two".

    The winning bidder might also have been a fan of the old flip, thinking they can get a "bump".
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>.....thinking they can get a "bump". >>



    to a 7.5? doubt anyone with a relatively strong knowledge of the game would think that card could carry a higher grade.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stunning color but the tilt would annoy me, maybe not a tilt per say but off centered enough to show.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There were five bidders above $5,600.

    The VCP average of $5,131 is useless.


  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    I was looking at $6,000 David. That is the VCP price. You might have been looking at the MID price, which means squat with a card like that.

    Above $6,000, there were only two bidders.
  • Don't get me wrong; it's a great card. I am just surprised that this was the example that obliterated the previous record.
    'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.'
    -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14

    *1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
    *Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bobby I was really just responding to Foo's reference of the VCP average.

    When a card sells for 40.40% more then the prevailing average one must adjust their bidding if they want to win.

    There have been a lot of cards sell for prices that appear stupid only to sell for more months later. I realize this rapid move higher in prices will level off at some point and perhaps even correct but that doesn't change the present.

  • MBMiller25MBMiller25 Posts: 6,057 ✭✭
    This is less about the card and more about the seller in my opinion. For whatever reason people lose their minds when bidding on PWCC auctions. There are quite common cards that sell for serious premiums because it's PWCC. I like Brent, he does a nice job, but his hammer prices are not indicative of the market on the whole in my opinion.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,382 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Who said " "stupid" "


    Great price and great card!
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is less about the card and more about the seller in my opinion. For whatever reason people lose their minds when bidding on PWCC auctions. There are quite common cards that sell for serious premiums because it's PWCC. I like Brent, he does a nice job, but his hammer prices are not indicative of the market on the whole in my opinion. >>



    True. That is not ALWAYS the case however. I have consigned with him, and set some record lows. My 1967 Dick Butkus PSA 8 comes to mind that I sold through him. It brought around $150 and VCP average was around $400 at the time. It all depends on the eyes and who is watching it at the time.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The prices that we see are dictated by both buyers and sellers.

    Yes Brent gets a premium but in many cases he is the only game in town.

    In this case perhaps there was a premium associated with the offering coming from PWCC but once again there were five bidders above $5,600 which tells you where the true market support is for this card and it is nearly 10% higher then the average. I think that is a strong showing that represents the market. It is up on cards such as this on average.

    The market may change going forward but if you want to win a nice high grade in demand card it is going to cost more at the moment.
  • samspopsamspop Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Average price is $5131 so this reaching that price is pretty amazing. The highest this card ever sold before was just in January and that was for $5856! >>



    That was my card that sold in January and, obviously, very happy to sell it for that. They buyer was looking to deal it 2 weeks later at nearly $7k. The card, IMO, has been undervalued due to the stagnant economy. You are seeing that as the PSA 8's hit the market and the prices begin to jump. I think there are only @ 60 PSA 8's and it is still are fairly reasonably priced iconic card...it would not surprise me to see this card continue to go even higher as demand begins to outweigh the supply on this one.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting observation. Thanks for sharing baseball.

  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i> That's coming from someone who would pay $10K for a perfectly centered example in 8 that has no chance to upgrade. >>



    +1

    it would be interesting to see just how much a perfectly centered 8 would command. in the meantime, with so few high grade examples of such an iconic card being made available, it seems like a safe assumption that PWCC hammer price will be topped someday.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to gauge actual value on consignment auctions for obvious reasons..


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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to gauge actual value on consignment auctions for obvious reasons.. >>



    Bingo.
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    It is an ok 8. Not a card I would pay that premium for.

    aconte
  • The card has the worst centering for a Psa 8 Aaron rookie I've ever seen. I'm SHOCKED it sold for that much.

    Looks like a Psa 7 card to me. Also looks like it has a vertical crease or scratch about 1" in on the left side of the card.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭
    I was surprised it went that high due to the tilt. A lot of the rm collection cards had poor centering for the grade imho yet some achieved monster prices...like the 33 goudey ruths
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  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was also amazed as the centering was far, far less than ideal-- especially when dropping that kind of money; just not what I want on the grade. As a buyer, I was personally disappointed in how many of the cards were not well-centered-- and many were just swimming around in those holders, noticeably short.

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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was also amazed as the centering was far, far less than ideal-- especially when dropping that kind of money; just not what I want on the grade. As a buyer, I was personally disappointed in how many of the cards were not well-centered-- and many were just swimming around in those holders, noticeably short. >>



    Definitely agree Matty. But then again not everyone has the same OCD passion for centering that you and I do ;-)

    There were a few centering issues, but he SGC 98 Brett Mini was the one that disappointed the most. I would have made a run if it were better centered
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  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am noticing that prices on Ebay for certain cards using BIN are trending a hair high, and that auctions are actually seeing good results for super high end stuff - 33 Goudey Ruth's, 53 Mantles and Mays in PSA 8 or higher, Aaron rookies...

    What I am noticing in both Mile High and MLI auctions is that good cards are not going for crazy prices. For example '54 Williams # 250 for $3796, 55 Aaron in PSA 8 for $1137, '57 Williams in PSA 8 for $1037, nice 57 Mays in PSA 8 for about mid $800's, and Aaron in PSA 8 for mid $600's. Seems like in the big auctions good cards are getting lost in the shuffle.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I looked at the unopened section of the current ML auction and couldn't believe some of the prices even pedestrian packs are commanding.


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  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful card and fair price.
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know-- is the PSA 9 really, truly $50,000 better than these two PSA 8s? Honestly, I just do not see the expenditure making any sense, looking at these cards side-by-side. I actually believe both of the 8s are superior cards, if not equal. The 9 has left edge wear that the 8s do not, and the 9 also has worse left-right centering.

    To think the beautiful cards one could own with that excess 50k. This, to me, is where the whole grading/sticker game goes haywire, and it has ceased to be about the card itself, because I just cannot wrap my head around how those two beautiful 8s can be considered $50,000 worse than that 9. And to be clear, this is not to diss that 9. I think it is a nice card.

    This is to point out how the sticker alone can create enormous value, because I can guarantee that were these cards offered raw and side-by-side for 100 collectors to choose from, I doubt one of the hypothetical 100 would pay 500% to 600% more for the raw 9 as opposed to the raw 8s.

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the PSA 9 is the best conditioned card of the 3, imo, but as a collector, I'd be happy with one of the 8s and saving the difference. But that is just my opinion. The 8 on the right would be as nice as the 9, if not for a slightly soft bottom right corner. Centering T/B is also not as nice as the 9, though, on that one.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For my eye, I think the middle 8 stomps the 9. The edge wear on the 9 + the tilt and side border thickness differential kill it for me. But that is admittedly all a subjective thing.

    Even if one prefers the 9, the big question is: if they were raw, would you pay like 500% more for the left card than the middle or right cards?

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,739 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For my eye, I think the middle 8 stomps the 9. The edge wear on the 9 + the tilt and side border thickness differential kill it for me. But that is admittedly all a subjective thing.

    Even if one prefers the 9, the big question is: if they were raw, would you pay like 500% more for the left card than the middle or right cards? >>



    T/B centering is not as strong on the middle card, imo, and those specks under the cap would drive me crazy, but that's me, lol..

    Middle card also has a tilt, though not quite as evident as the PSA 9.

    But, yes, as I said, I'd personally buy the 8 and keep the change. But my budget is limited. There are those whose aren't, lol..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hear ya, G-- I would do the same all day. And even with the loot to drop, just can't justify calling the left card $50,000 better than the two on the right.

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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    Matty, the 8 on the far right is easily the nicest Aaron ever. And probably worth $75,000 if the 9 sold for 50k!

    In all seriousness, I've had my Aaron reviewed 3 times And not even getting an 8.5. Would love to show them the 9 and state my case
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>here's a PSA 8 with A+ centering!

    eye roller derby. >>



    The seller is correct, it does have some type of "centering."
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Far right one is probably my least favorite - dull border colors and worst corners of the three although the face image is clear. Middle one has the brightest borders by far and good centering L-R while the 9 has the best corners but there is a slight tilt.

    I would agree that I would take the middle one in an 8 and save the $40k and pick up a 1953 Mantle, 1953 Mays, and another card in the $5-7k range. Key thing is if you are wanting the best example and plan on keeping it, or if you plan to flip it you better hope someone else wants to pay out over $50k and the economy stays strong.
  • RookieHOFersRookieHOFers Posts: 733 ✭✭✭
    That Aaron looks familiar image Thanks Matt, how about a better scan.

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    I collect: 80’s Rookies and 86 Fleer Basketball
  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭


    << <i>For my eye, I think the middle 8 stomps the 9. >>



    +1. I'd take the middle one if somebody offered me all three cards with slabs showing.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have been looking through the Memory Lane results with the buyers premium added and I went to check the SMR to see previous sales. I could have sworn the Aaron in a PSA sold for somewhere in the mid 30's last year.

    The last reported sale in the liner notes is $36,023.

    With the current sale price of $62,140 that is quite an impressive jump. $26,117 or 72.50%.

  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    54 Johnston Cookies


    This is a really cool card. I am looking forward to seeing how this finishes.

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