1989 Upper Deck Grading Question

MBMiller25

I have been opening and accumulating quite a bit of 89 Upper Deck star cards (Griffey, Johnson, Smoltz, Ryan's, Biggio) over the last few months. I have accumulated alot of these cards, and I really want to self sub my own Griffey PSA 10. I have several copies that are really really nice, but have pieces of the hologram missing or very O/C on the back. How does PSA view the hologram on the back of the card? Does this detract from the grade? How much detraction is there for cards missing pieces of the hologram?

Thanks in advance

gregmo32

The sad part is, it probably just depends.

ThoseBackPages

im not sure how PSA handles the hologram issues that so many of the Griffey's have, but BGS pounds the CRAP out of the hologram. ive seen Griffey's with literally 10/10/10/8.5(surface)

epatmythes

From what I've seen with others, and even experienced once myself (which led me to just give up and buy an already slabbed PSA 10)...

An otherwise flawless card, but with hologram issues... get's put in a PSA 8 slab

saucywombat

I remember a SMR article about the guy who built the all PSA 10 set a few years back and it was mentioned in the article that chipped holograms will prevent you form getting a 10.

Foo3112

Before sending them in, I recommend going on ebay and doing searches and comparing yours with the one already slabbed with a 10. Thats what I usually do before submitting so I can compare to see what I should be expecting.

Ive self submitted 2. One came back a 9 and the other an 8. I just said "forget it" and happened to purchase one off a board member for $200. Great considering that the average now falls at around $280.

Matt, if Im not mistaken, didnt you have one that you were asking for $250 a few months back along with a bunch of other cards?

hammered

I recall in the late 90s PSA would ding not only a chipped hologram but also a badly off center one. Not sure if they still do this.

JustinsShoebox

My last 89 UD Griffey I had submitted that popped a 10 had a well centered hologram (comparatively speaking) and I got 320.00 for that card.

I believe the hologram does matter a bit. When buying, I also look at the hologram location and condition in addition to the card.

Justin

MBMiller25

<< <i>Matt, if Im not mistaken, didnt you have one that you were asking for $250 a few months back along with a bunch of other cards? >>



Yes, I have a few of PSA 10's of both the Griffey and Johnson, but I want to self submit a PSA 10 for both of them. Have some sure fire 10's based on the front of the card, but they have hologram issues.

Thanks for the responses.

CubsKiller99

If you have any pretensions to a PSA 10 then the hologram must be pristine.

I had a 1990 Ryan (no stripe) Ryan graded PSA 10 less than a month ago and would
not have submitted it otherwise.

If there is any doubt whatsoever don't submit. And you won't be disappointed.