Good Candidate for "Conservation"? 1826 Capped Bust Half Dollar

BustHalfBrian

Just curious if the public thinks this could "conserve" if run through PCGS's new service. It's currently in an AU-Details holder for environmental damage.

Could the streak on the obverse be removed without completely altering the surface color? Without the streak, it'd be a nice piece. Probably AU50, maybe 53.

All input is greatly appreciated Thanks

coinkat

No

Let me explain why- I seriously doubt those black lines will come off and if they remain after the rest of the coin has lost its look, the end result will be a train wreck- the lines will be hightlighted worse than they are now

SoCalBigMark

Rubber band marks?

mozin

Sure would be nice to be able to simply remove the black streaks, but even if one could, the brightness under where the black streaks were would not at all match the rest of the coin. A dip might remove the black streaks, but it would also take off the rest of the toning. My guess is that no matter what is done to this coin, the black patch areas will not match the rest of the coin. In its present state, this coin at least has some areas of nice toning.

braddick

Already in a details holder?
Sure, I'd go for it.

There is a likelihood the results wouldn't be favorable, but also a chance you will accomplish exactly what it is you are seeking (the black doesn't look deep).

lkeigwin

No, I don't think PCGS will accept it for conservation. Mozin is right.

I hoped PCGS might work some magic on this half which graded problem-free but has an obvious obverse distraction. It was returned with a note that it would look worse. LOL.
Lance.

crypto79

Even worse there is often etching in the metal under rubber band marks like that. That is a scar and it will be there forever

BustHalfBrian

Lance, is that a drift mark? Yes, it is distracting, but at least it's naturally-occurring. I think I could look past something like that since it's not post-mint, and it's understandable why PCGS wouldn't want to mess with it.

Well, sounds like an almost unanimous "no" on my 1827. Darn!

Thanks anyway, all!

ColonelJessup

<< <i>Even worse there is often etching in the metal under rubber band marks like that. That is a scar and it will be there forever >>





ED underneath.

TwoSides2aCoin

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<< <i>Even worse there is often etching in the metal under rubber band marks like that. That is a scar and it will be there forever >>





ED underneath. >>



I love the truth when it's spoken, but it's good to see TYPED out, as well.

astrorat

<< <i>Sure would be nice to be able to simply remove the black streaks, but even if one could, the brightness under where the black streaks were would not at all match the rest of the coin. A dip might remove the black streaks, but it would also take off the rest of the toning. My guess is that no matter what is done to this coin, the black patch areas will not match the rest of the coin. In its present state, this coin at least has some areas of nice toning. >>

+1

DorkGirl

<< <i>Rubber band marks? >>



That's my thought too.

roadrunner

The coin at least has full detail and lots of character the way it currently is. Stripping it clean doesn't "improve" anything in my mind.

It's an 1827 bust half dollar that has seen a lot in its time. It's not a modern coin where a quick dip would probably make no difference.

lkeigwin

<< <i>Lance, is that a drift mark? Yes, it is distracting, but at least it's naturally-occurring. I think I could look past something like that since it's not post-mint, and it's understandable why PCGS wouldn't want to mess with it. >>


I don't really know. The half is uncirculated and the mark may be from improper storage (PMD)...something resting on it. It doesn't resemble a metallic impurity streak. More like a stain.

Have you heard the notion that sometimes organic material (sawdust or charcoal, e.g.) was rolled into the strips before punching planchets? Supposedly annealing furnaces reduced such impurities to cinders. Like copper spots, it is usually not possible to remove without damaging the coin or exposing damage beneath it.
Lance.

TwoSides2aCoin

Environmental damage might be unattractive BUT ... at the cost o stripping the rest of the coin of it's natural state of being what it is.... which to me is pretty, I always have to remind myself "LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE". That's when I compare a coin to a woman. Let her be. She is fine the way she is.

Coinsponge

Might actually be appealing to a drag racing fan who also collects coins.

braddick

Rubber bands were not invented until 96 years after this bust half was minted.

Taylor101

Probaby not...Sorry buddy!
Taylor

AMRC

I would give it a try - but only because it is in a Details holder. I am not hopeful because the amount of stripping required to remove the black stuff is much greater than the rest of the coin.

crypto79

Here is a coin with the same rubber band marks removed, notice what it looks like esp on the close up of the Rev

BustHalfBrian

Not bad, but I do see etching...

What'd you use on it?

crypto79

I didn't clean that one but there's only two things that remove gunk but not tone, mineral oil and acetone. I suspect the latter, as it looks like the results I have had on other coins with similar looks