Why is this not a forum rule violation

MWallace

I just have to ask, why are criticisms of the USPS, UPS, or FedEx and/or it's employees not a violation of Rule #4?


<< <i>Rule 4) Anyone making libelous remarks concerning any individual, any company, or any other entity will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings. >>


Just asking.

s4ny

Reminds me of all those old British films about libel.

It's not libel if it is true. I think the owners of Collectors Universe are well
aware of the shortcomings of the major package transportation services.

A person does have to be careful about postings. Increasingly, there are cases on
sites like Angies List where somebody slams a contractor and the contractor
sues.

Big difference between: " I wasn't satisfied with the job." and "The contractor
is dishonest."

llafoe

I agree... your thread is a violation of the forum rules:

Rule 6) This forum is about US Coins. If your post is not directly related to US Coins then this is the wrong forum. Do not post it or your posting privileges may be removed.

Rule 8) This forum is provided for the education and sharing of information. Not as a personal soapbox. If you want to learn and share information about US Coins you are welcome.

messydesk

Criticism isn't necessarily libel.

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astrorat

<< <i>Criticism isn't necessarily libel. >>

+1

Greeniejr

Because nobody from those companies lurk here and threaten legal action if something does not portray them in the best light no matter how true the statement is.

SamByrd

<< <i>I agree... your thread is a violation of the forum rules:

Rule 6) This forum is about US Coins. If your post is not directly related to US Coins then this is the wrong forum. Do not post it or your posting privileges may be removed.

Rule 8) This forum is provided for the education and sharing of information. Not as a personal soapbox. If you want to learn and share information about US Coins you are welcome.

>>

llafoe

<< <i>Because nobody from those companies lurk here and threaten legal action if something does not portray them in the best light no matter how true the statement is. >>



Corporations would be in court 24/7 with very large teams of attorneys if they pursued everyone that "libeled" them... they'd also destroy their customer base.

johnny9434

<< <i>Criticism isn't necessarily libel. >>

magikbilly

Today must be some holiday or other

Eric

MWallace

Looks like this thread struck a nerve with some of you.

I have seen it said on this forum MANY times things such as "those idiots at the PO don't know what they're doing" or "my coin was stolen by a UPS employee". Do you think it would be allowed to post here "those idiots at >insert any TPG< stole my coin?"

I'm just asking.

LindeDad

As long as it is not directed at a specific person or location it's still just a rant.

Edit to add. Venting keeps many from going postal.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>I agree... your thread is a violation of the forum rules:
Rule 6) This forum is about US Coins. If your post is not directly related to US Coins then this is the wrong forum. Do not post it or your posting privileges may be removed.
>>


Rule 1) provided for PCGS customers to exchange information regarding ""collecting"" US coins.
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JerseyJoe

There are two rules for coin collecting.

1) never share all your information.

MWallace

<< <i><< I agree... your thread is a violation of the forum rules: >>



As well as is the very post I'm asking about, i.e. criticisms/complaints/or whatever you want to call them about delivery companies, not to mention the rants about eBay. Not US Coin related either, yet tolerated here. I guess it depends on who is doing the ranting.

Also the post that are not US Coin related yet the OP or someone after the OP posts a picture of a coin and states the picture is to keep it on topic. Why are they tolerated?

Just asking.

19Lyds

<< <i>I just have to ask, why are criticisms of the USPS, UPS, or FedEx and/or it's employees not a violation of Rule #4?


<< <i>Rule 4) Anyone making libelous remarks concerning any individual, any company, or any other entity will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings. >>


Just asking. >>

Because they are faceless entities that everybody whines about.

It seems to me thar the goal of the rules is to keep the US Coin Forum from becoming an OPEN FORUM and it does appear to be working.

Death Announcements, Marriage Announcements, Birth Announcements, eBay dissing threads. All appear to be tolerated for whatever reasons even though they are in direct violation of Rule #4.

Does it bother me? No. Not always. Sometimes yes.

DO I care that some abuse the rules and get away with it?

Not really.

MWallace

<< <i>Does it bother me? No. Not always. Sometimes yes. DO I care that some abuse the rules and get away with it? Not really. >>



I agree 100% with 19Lyds. Like I've said, "I'm just asking". I've noticed some are tolerated, and some, like mine, are not. Would it be tolerated if I post a picture of a coin?

DIMEMAN

>>>Would it be tolerated if I post a picture of a coin? <<<

Yes, as long as it is not a coin associated with your avatar!

llafoe

<< <i>

<< <i>Does it bother me? No. Not always. Sometimes yes. DO I care that some abuse the rules and get away with it? Not really. >>



I agree 100% with 19Lyds. Like I've said, "I'm just asking". I've noticed some are tolerated, and some, like mine, are not. Would it be tolerated if I post a picture of a coin? >>

LindeDad

<< <i>>>>Would it be tolerated if I post a picture of a coin? <<<

Yes, as long as it is not a coin associated with your avatar! >>



Why it happens to be about the truest to life depiction of our national bird on any of our coins.

TwoSides2aCoin

I submit coins and am free to date older or younger women. I don't care what religion they are or their political affiliation, so long as they don't mind taking dictation. I'm tired of typing here.

tahoe98

<< <i>As long as it is not directed at a specific person or location it's still just a rant.

Edit to add. Venting keeps many from going postal. >>



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Justlooking

Criticism is not libel, unless you're lying.

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Lakesammman

Threads are accepted if "OT" is in the title.

Barry

<< <i>I just have to ask, why are criticisms of the USPS, UPS, or FedEx and/or it's employees not a violation of Rule #4?


<< <i>Rule 4) Anyone making libelous remarks concerning any individual, any company, or any other entity will no longer be allowed to post. No more warnings. >>


Just asking. >>


Look up the definition of libel. If it's not untrue, it's not libel.
Then, look up the proper use of it's and its.

Bochiman

I don't know.

I, for one, just love it when infrequent posters finally post a thread....not to share, or inform, or anything but to whine about someone else's thread.

Love it

coinguy1989

Truth is a good defense; therefore, there is no libel, and the comments cannot be said to be libelous.

coinguy1989

<< <i>I agree... your thread is a violation of the forum rules:

Rule 6) This forum is about US Coins. If your post is not directly related to US Coins then this is the wrong forum. Do not post it or your posting privileges may be removed.

Rule 8) This forum is provided for the education and sharing of information. Not as a personal soapbox. If you want to learn and share information about US Coins you are welcome.

>>



+1

MWallace

<< <i> I, for one, just love it when infrequent posters finally post a thread....not to share, or inform, or anything but to whine about someone else's thread. >>



Maybe I am what many of you would call an

<< <i>"infrequent poster" >>

. Does that preclude me from posting questions here? I have a job as well as other responsibilities that keep me from being on this board 24/7 as many seem to be. I have contributed to these boards. I'm sure if you'd take the time you could search for some of the posts I have started. I have simply asked a question about how this forum is run and have been met with some rude comments. I thank those of you who have answered my question seriously.

As far as sharing info, I have a web site that I first put up in February 2001 and update it on a constant basis. I have spent countless hours doing research, writing, taking photos, etc. I give this information away for free, as well as coins and sample slabs with my site logo. All of this is not free to me, but its free to those that want it. I have NEVER turned down anyone that has asked to use my info for research papers, publication articles, ads, etc. For everyone that asks permission to use info on my site, I find two or three more that use it without my permission, some of them have actually claimed it as their work.

Website storage and domain names are not free. I pay the expense myself so others can benefit from my research. I have NEVER asked for contributions nor do I allow ads on my site, even though I have been asked.

edix2001

Mike Wallace is completely entitled to ask his question and his observations are true. Unfortunately rules are generally arbitrary and applied in an even more arbitrary manner. C'est la vie!