What the heck kind of holder is this?

39Special

Saw this recently on the Bay, went for a pretty good sum too. Never seen one of these and the seller would not identify it even though I asked.

CoinZip

XXX


Is that like Coin Porn?

derryb

dot matrix printer makes it an antique

Constantine

I wonder what the note on reverse says. I am a bit familiar with early slabs and have no idea. But the dot matrix and obverse/reverse grading feels late 80s.

messydesk

Is that an old NCI slab?

AUandAG

I've never seen that "brand" before but the price realized, just over $200, seems in line for the coin.
Appears to be a nice strong 64 and more likely a 65.

bob

LINK

PerryHall

<< <i>Is that an old NCI slab? >>



I think you're right. The name is on the back of the slab label.

daOnlyBG

<< <i>XXX


Is that like Coin Porn? >>

CaptHenway

It's a "Double Secret Holder!"

astrorat

Yes, it is an old NCI slab. Actually, it's the only NCI slab. Prior to the slab, the company used photo certificates.

Baley

crypto79

both look accurately graded enough

Wabbit2313

Coin was bid higher than I would have thought. Look here about the slabbing company. Here:

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Coin was bid higher than I would have thought. Look here about the slabbing company. Here: >>



i've seen a few of these surrounding graders/tpgs.

never fails to be interesting reading.
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northcoin

<< <i>Coin was bid higher than I would have thought. Look here about the slabbing company. Here: >>



Surprised to see stalwarts Steve Ivy and James Halperin along with their apparently newly formed Heritage company implicated. There must be more to the story. The way the charges read I guess it was lucky they didn't end up with jail time or probation like the Wall Street Guys of today.

Tiny

Here is an auction I won earlier this month. It shows what comes with the salb.

N C I

Wabbit2313

<< <i>Here is an auction I won earlier this month. It shows what comes with the salb.

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What are you doing buying that date?? And worse yet, at full PCGS pricing!

Wabbit2313

I actually have both of those slabs somewhere around. I never got my portion of the 1.2 Million though!!

Tiny

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<< <i>Here is an auction I won earlier this month. It shows what comes with the salb.

N C I >>



What are you doing buying that date?? And worse yet, at full PCGS pricing! >>





Well I got that one for a friend of mine and a 1879 S for me. We had never seen one of those.

Wabbit2313

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<< <i>Here is an auction I won earlier this month. It shows what comes with the salb.

N C I >>



What are you doing buying that date?? And worse yet, at full PCGS pricing! >>





Well I got that one for a friend of mine and a 1879 S for me. We had never seen one of those. >>




I still have that Beautiful NTC MS-67 PL 1879-S for you!!!

roadrunner

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<< <i>Coin was bid higher than I would have thought. Look here about the slabbing company. Here: >>



Surprised to see stalwarts Steve Ivy and James Halperin along with their apparently newly formed Heritage company implicated. There must be more to the story. The way the charges read I guess it was lucky they didn't end up with jail time or probation like the Wall Street Guys of today. >>




Not much incentive to punish/jail those that "just" fleece the public. If loose grading standards were a crime, probably 70-80% of the leading dealers who operated in the 1970's and early 1980's would have qualified. Lots of skeletons in the closest from those "wild, wild west days." Being a stalwart today doesn't necessarily have much bearing on what one might have done 20, 30, or even 50 years ago.

astrorat

<< <i>Here is an auction I won earlier this month. It shows what comes with the salb.

N C I >>

Nice that you got the certificate as well.

slimedog

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<< <i>Coin was bid higher than I would have thought. Look here about the slabbing company. Here: >>



Surprised to see stalwarts Steve Ivy and James Halperin along with their apparently newly formed Heritage company implicated. There must be more to the story. The way the charges read I guess it was lucky they didn't end up with jail time or probation like the Wall Street Guys of today. >>




Not much incentive to punish/jail those that "just" fleece the public. If loose grading standards were a crime, probably 70-80% of the leading dealers who operated in the 1970's and early 1980's would have qualified. Lots of skeletons in the closest from those "wild, wild west days." Being a stalwart today doesn't necessarily have much bearing on what one might have done 20, 30, or even 50 years ago. >>



Back in 1969 when I was stationed at Ft. Bliss in El Paso, Steve Ivy would occasionally show up for shows in El Paso. He was known by a lot of the locals as the Whiz Kid.

roadrunner

Back in 1969 when I was stationed at Ft. Bliss in El Paso, Steve Ivy would occasionally show up for shows in El Paso. He was known by a lot of the locals as the Whiz Kid.

I actually bought a few decent coins from Steve Ivy Rare Coin back in the mid-1970's. But my first purchase from the newly formed Heritage Corp. in 1983 was not good. I
was sent a "gem unc" 1858-0 seated quarter for $3,000. At that time I had a standing offer to pay $4,000 min. for any gem unc O mint seated quarter. Imagine my surprise when
what I received in the mail was a stripped and lifeless AU58 coin worth no more than $400. Coincidentally, I did find an actual gem unc 58-0 quarter that same year via
Superior's Brad Bohnert in one of their auction sales. Paid $4300 for the real deal. 5 yrs later it slabbed out as NGC MS65. I've never seen a finer one since. Also found a NGC MS62
specimen at auction in 1988 for $550. That one was also considerably nicer than the $3,000 AU of 5 yrs earlier.