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Question about Larry Bird/Magic Johnson rookie card?

bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
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I have a question about the Larry Bird/Magic Johnson rookie card. I don't know much about the issue, and this seems a little off. On the left side, there are perferation that look correct (between Bird and Erving). On the right side, there seems to be no perferation whatsoever. Is that normal for the issue, or shouldnt the perferations be equal?

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  • mcadamsmcadams Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭
    I'm no expert on that set. But, I'd view it as an imperfection and place a lower value on the card. Not only does it appear that the perforations weren't made properly at the factory, but it makes the card visually less appealing. I'm surprised PSA doesn't factor this in to the grade.

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,615 ✭✭✭✭
    I've never seen one like that before. Very interesting.
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Maybe a 'dust removal' feature removed them like it does the decimals on half grades?
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Bobby ... how about that small black line underneath the "N" in Johnson ... PSA does not take that into consideration?
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  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317
    It might be a Milton Bradley issue
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It might be a Milton Bradley issue >>



    Sure....troll/alt. This is why noone posts here anymore. You take a serious question and turn it into gargage.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Bobby ... how about that small black line underneath the "N" in Johnson ... PSA does not take that into consideration? >>



    I don't believe they do. It is a printers mark, and I think the graders ignore it. Some have it, some don't.
  • thunderdanthunderdan Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Bobby ... how about that small black line underneath the "N" in Johnson ... PSA does not take that into consideration? >>



    I don't believe they do. It is a printers mark, and I think the graders ignore it. Some have it, some don't. >>



    I think they take the line into consideration--I have never seen that card in a 10 with that line. Plenty of 9s have it though, not unlike many 9s in other cards that possess minor printing imperfections.

    As to the perforations, I've never seen so few on the magic panel. I think it's a flaw, but obviously PSA didn't ding that card much for it. I've seen 9s where the perforations on the magic weren't 100% symmetrical to the perforations on the bird.
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  • MattyCMattyC Posts: 1,335 ✭✭
    Might be dust removal feature as someone said above.

    Also, copies without the black line usually command a premium for their assigned grade.
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    The black line is on 90% of them. My 9 has that line

    As for the preferation, as others have said, I've never seen that before. Very interesting. The problem with knocking it down a grade is that the preferations are all inconsistent. I have had 3 different Bird/Magics that have had 3 different preferation lines, with less dashes than others. It was just the QC with Topps, so I can see why PSA would leave it as a 9....

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  • mccardguy1mccardguy1 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It might be a Milton Bradley issue >>



    Sure....troll/alt. This is why noone posts here anymore. You take a serious question and turn it into gargage. >>



    Geez Bobby, Lighten up....take a happy pill or something. I didnt realize this hobby we all started to enjoy as a child and gives us all so much happiness as an adult must now be spoken about with reverence and in serious tones only.

    These are freaking sports cards Bobby. No need to be so uptight.

    As for the card...I suspect it is the scanning program and not the card. But one can always crack it out and add perforations and resub if need be!! image

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  • JasonM32JasonM32 Posts: 170 ✭✭
    I've never seen this on any Magic/Bird pack inserted cards before. It's been showing up lately on graded cards only so far as I can tell. It could be an issue if someone is cleaning up their scan with software of some kind and it's getting removed. I can't say for sure.

    The only other time I have seen this many missing perforations on 1980 Topps is on uncut sheets. Coincidence? Take it for what it's worth. The next time I see this issue I'm going to start contacting the seller for clarification. At any rate I would not pay full price for a card missing that many perforations. I see it as a flaw.

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  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭


    << <i>Maybe a 'dust removal' feature removed them like it does the decimals on half grades? >>



    That's exactly what the problem is. The dashed lines will disappear depending
    on your scanners settings. I've had the same problem with some raw '80-81s
    I tried listing. When I couldn't figure out how to adjust the scanner's setting correctly,
    I just didn't bother to list them.

    What's weird is it didn't happen on every '80-81 card I tried scanning.
  • JasonM32JasonM32 Posts: 170 ✭✭
    I've seen a PSA 10 of the Bird/Magic rookie that had the black print line. Most 10's do not have it but at least one did.

    Magic Johnson is the focus of my collection so I've looked at quite a few of these cards.

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