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Why PMs remain range-bound?

Ted Butler's supposition fits with my intuitive sense that what we've seen is less a nefarious conspiratorial manipulation and more an attempt by central banks and gov't to stabilize the economy. In a way, it is not unlike stealing from the savers in Cyprus, it steals from PM investors and is anything but transparent in a "free" market.


<< <i>That it is JPMorgan as the likely concentrated short candidate in all four [precious metals] is deeply troubling. Why is any U.S. bank so heavily involved on the short side of any metals market, to say nothing of why is our most systemically important bank probably the one big precious metals short? It’s hard not to reach the conclusion that JPMorgan has been anointed by some entity within the U.S. Government to tamp down any price rally in any precious metal market. This also explains why the CFTC has stood by in allowing the silver manipulation to spread to other markets, violating its most important mission of preventing manipulation. Instead, it appears the CFTC is sanctioning an ever-expanding price manipulation scheme. As such, they appear as crooked as JPMorgan. - Silver analyst Ted Butler...20 March 2013 >>

Markets (governments) can remain irrational longer than an investor can remain solvent.

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    The range of values will be zero to infinity.
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,373 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The range of values won't include zero.
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    I knew it would happen.
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    razzlerazzle Posts: 981 ✭✭
    Darwin, just because you believe FOX News is also lying to you doesn't necessarily make you a cult, especially since you demonstrate such a firm grasp of the obvious with regard to the PM price range.
    Markets (governments) can remain irrational longer than an investor can remain solvent.
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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    less a nefarious conspiratorial manipulation and more an attempt by central banks and gov't to stabilize the economy


    Isnt this the same?
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

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    razzlerazzle Posts: 981 ✭✭
    cohodk, you asked,

    << <i>Isnt this the same? >>


    I am differentiating because I believe there is less of a profit motive to the price suppression. Nonetheless, as you seem to suggest, there is certainly the appearance of wrongdoing, so they may be the same.
    Markets (governments) can remain irrational longer than an investor can remain solvent.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IMO, metals remain rangebound because when the go up, people sell them, and when they go down, people buy them.

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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    sorry for killin' the thread by stating the profoundly obvious image

    Have a good weekend image

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,202 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>cohodk, you asked,

    << <i>Isnt this the same? >>


    I am differentiating because I believe there is less of a profit motive to the price suppression. Nonetheless, as you seem to suggest, there is certainly the appearance of wrongdoing, so they may be the same. >>


    Price suppression by those pulling the strings that provides profit for those dangling from the strings. Win-win for both parties.

    Recent events in India fully demonstrate that control of gold is essential in strengthening currency and should remove doubt of US FED actions and intentions concerning gold prices.



    << <i>it is not unlike stealing from the savers in Cyprus, it steals from PM investors and is anything but transparent in a "free" market. >>


    difference being Cyprus savers did not realize their money in banks was at risk, PM investors do. American savers have now been publicly warned - they are considered creditors and their bank accounts ARE at risk.

    Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar

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    mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭


    << <i> American savers have now been warned - they are considered creditors and their bank accounts ARE at risk. >>



    This is why I like PMs and the envelope system for my Fiat toilet paper.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nothing wrong with fiat as long as you see it for what it is. Having it in your wallet It is a necessary risk.

    Keep an open mind, or get financially repressed -Zoltan Pozsar

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