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New Purchases for my 20th Century Type Set

Tell me what you think of my two new purchases for my 20th Century Type Set. Nice Barbers are hard to find. Barber Quarter is PCGS MS67 and Barber Half if PCGS MS66 imageimageimage

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  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    Dennis:

    Wow! Looks like you're gunning for the number 1 spot. High Desert, watch out!!

    Greg
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
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    Wow! is right they look like they were just minted.
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • Greg,
    High Desert does not have to worry. I am in the 20th Century Circulation Only Type Set and Type Set with Variations. I am only buying circulation strike coins. He is in the combined Proof and Ciculation set.
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    Nice half! That's quite a coin. I couldn't get the quarter to come up though....
    Give Blood (Red Bags) & Platelets (Yellow Bags)!
  • I have the scans on my computer and attached the files. It seems they can be accessed only once. The next time someone tries to access the files, it says it no longer exists. How do I solve this problem? Any suggestions. Let me know. Thanks
  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074
    I couldn't see the scans image They sure do sound like power coins though. You might just get pretty close to HD in the mixed set.
  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025
    Dennis is gunning for me. imageimage

    When he gets to 100% my reign will definitely be at an end, unless someone else comes along sooner (although I did stave Larry off by .01 points). I'm only looking to top out at MS-65 for each slot, so I won't be able to compete against these pieces. All in good fun though.

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • Keith,
    It is going to take me a long time to get 100%. It took me over 6 months to find these two coins so don't worry about me. I am building this set slowly.
  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    Great coins Dennis (at least in terms of technical grades, can't see the scans though image) I've been looking for those same grades for those two coins for future buying reference and haven't managed to locate any in the last several weeks; its hard enough to locate these let alone to be able to afford them when they do become available!

    RELLA
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025
    RELLA,

    I've been keeping an eye out for upgrades for my Barber Half as well, and it seems that they are rare in any grade with eye appeal. So I know that Dennis' hunt has not been easy because if I remember right, he goes for the untoned pieces.

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    Dennis:

    For my set, I will probably go for a 66 dime, 66 quarter, and 64 or 65 half. These are hard and expensive, and I see you went for about one grade higher. Should get you near the top with the large Barber weights. Why not go for combined as well? You already have the proof IKEs and SBAs, and the rest of the pieces are cheap in 69DCAM or 68DCAM. The AH Kennedy probably in CAM.

    I am still waiting to see the layout for the 20th century proof only set. BJ said that DH decided not to do that one, but now I see they are working on it again. When its released, I will make a final decision to concentrate my pre 1950 purchase on CS or proof. That will determine which Barbers I go for. See you all near the top.image

    Greg S
  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025
    Greg,

    You only need two proofs for the Combined set, the Accented Hair and the Silver State Quarter. But with a lot of the proofs getting bonuses, it is real hard to complete with a MS only set. If they added the gold back in, I think that it would be more competitive Mixed, but without it, the Proof guys still really dominate.

    Keith
    Keith ™



  • << <i>Should get you near the top with the large Barber weights. Why not go for combined as well? You already have the proof IKEs and SBAs, and the rest of the pieces are cheap in 69DCAM or 68DCAM. The AH Kennedy probably in CAM. >>



    How could I compete when the proofs for some of these coins are eaiser to obtain and cheaper, not to mention the bonus points for CAM and DCAM. For Example: If I put in a $3000 MS68 Silver Roosevelt Dime, I get 68 times the weight of 1. Someone else with proofs puts in a much cheaper PR69DCAM. They get more points for the 69 grade plus 2 bonus points for DCAM. I could never get hope to make any advances at that rate.
  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    Dennis:

    Just buy all the 1950 and on proofs that you don't have and use them for your combined set. A couple of thousand dollars would do it. You could probably get them all in one order from a cameocc, or Rick Tomaska, or even Mitch. Use your great post 1950 mint state pieces for the cs only set.

    Greg
  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074
    I don't think it is that bad for CS guys in the mixed set. I just looked and it doesn't look like there are bonuses for DCAM proofs on the modern stuff. Now I admit a MS 68 is harder than a 69 DCAM but there is only a 1 point difference, not a 3 point difference. Perhaps they can follow someone's earlier suggestion and add a point for modern CS coins? Maybe even 2 points?
  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025
    Actually, in Dennis' example, it is a 3 point difference. He's talking silver Roosevelts, weight of 1. The MS gets 68 points while the 69DC gets 71 because it has a 2 point DCAM bonus.

    Now think of some of the earlier pieces. Barber half dollar in PR-66CAM (NGC) on Pinnacle's website for $3,950 vs CU Price of common date MS-66 $4,900. Now points, the MS-66 gets 8 x 66 or 528 points in the set while the proof (assume it crosses) gets 8 x 67 or 536 points. 8 more points to overcome for $1,000 less.

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • TypetoneTypetone Posts: 1,621 ✭✭
    Keith:

    Let's compare apples to apples. A PCGS PR66 Barber CUs at $5,500. More if CAM. Sure that's high, but the MS price is high as well. I would guess I could get a nice MS66 for equal to or less than a nice PR66.

    Greg
  • keithdagenkeithdagen Posts: 2,025
    OK, recent example from Heritage's archives and the month of February -- PR65CA PCGS at $2415 and a MS65 PCGS at $2128.

    Quick check of a couple of dealer sites linked here and I only saw one MS66, listed for $4175, and it was an 1892. I have seen other Barbers where the proof was actually cheaper than the MS counterpart because the proofs were better preserved. It seems like there is a transition.

    Cheaper to get proofs from 1900-1916 in many series, MS coins from 1916-1940's, and then PR's again from the late 40's to the present.

    Keith
    Keith ™

  • cointimecointime Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dennisl,
    What great coins. I hope you turn off the stealth mode and load some pictures so we can drool over our keyboards.

    I really feel like I fell asleep at the wheel. I was shooting to catch Keith, then I saw Greg picking out some real choice coins. Next the Dabigkahuna swoops in from nowhere. image

    Once again I awake to find Dennisl and WM Walser joining the hunt. image Thought this was going to be a quiet dueling set. Glad to see if I'm gonna stay in the top 5, it gonna be alot of fun image

    I gotta say these new coins, bring a new meaning to deep pockets. Congrats all.
    Kennyimage
  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074
    Hey I'm not arguing proof doesn't have a huge advantage in the mixed set. It is just I realized I don't have as much advantage as I thought I had image Those modern Kennedys, SBAs, Ikes and so forth don't have a DCAM bonus.

    I would like to see it evened out a little, but we would still be comparing apples to oranges. Besides it looks like there will be stiff competition in the CS only set so that might keep everybody busy while I finish out a 20'th century proof type set.
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