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Notoriously Difficult Cards of HOF's in High Grade Condition

ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
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Just looking over the Pop Reports, wanted to see what everyone has come up with. I am talking about PSA 9 or higher where the player is a HOF or big name and the card is extremely difficult in relation to the rest of the set. Not the Jackson Todd in 1978 or a Nolan Ryan 1971 because all 71's are difficult.

Here's what I mean:
1969 Topps Lou Brock 4 PSA 9's out of 569-less than 1%. The 1969 set as a whole is 15% PSA 9 or higher
1976 Topps George Brett 10 PSA 9's out of 1240 less than 1%. The 1976 set gives you over 40% PSA 9 or higher
1986 Topps Steve Young 70 out of 4,272 almost 2%. The set is at 30%

What else can you add?
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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    59 gibson and 59 mantle always seem oc, not sure what the pop report reflects
  • MattyCMattyC Posts: 1,335 ✭✭
    I'd think these fit in...

    71 Munson (unless we are discounting all 71s, but I'd venture this is tough even relative to that set's norm)
    75 Mini Ryan #500 (the real pop of untrimmed examples is way lower than stated) and the #5 HL (many aren't ever sent in due to severe OC issues)
    Maybe 68 Ryan RC and Reggie 69 RC

    How about the 1985 Merchante Michael Jordan? Huge HOF athlete, early career issue, and a TOTAL pop 12 with only one 8.5 and one 8.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    1978 Topps #400 Nolan Ryan... Zero PSA 10s and only 65 PSA 9s out of 2,032 subbed.
  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    1980 Topps #482 Rickey Henderson... only 11 PSA 10s out of 11,869 subbed.

    Maybe I'm only going after the obvious ones. :/
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    1973 Yaz and Morgan
  • alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    1969 Topps Lou Brock 4 PSA 9's out of 569-less than 1%. The 1969 set as a whole is 15% PSA 9 or higher
    1976 Topps George Brett 10 PSA 9's out of 1240 less than 1%. The 1976 set gives you over 40% PSA 9 or higher
    1986 Topps Steve Young 70 out of 4,272 almost 2%. The set is at 30% >>


    I dont disagree with the concept, but do remember, that most of the rest of the set is only submitted when high grade. Rookies/Stars like this tend to have more low grade submissions due to there generally collectivity since they are rookies.
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    Joe Willie Namath '65 Topps Rookie.

    886 graded by PSA, only 4 are PSA MINT 9, no 10's.

    i think most of us are aware of the inherent difficulties in finding even a nice mid-grade example.

    anyone care to find the 5th PSA 9 example and show it off here, thereby you become an instant celebrity.

    good luck one and all. image
  • mygottamygotta Posts: 1,652
    Not a lot of submissions, but our of 71 subs of the 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg #690, only 2 PSA 10's have been graded. And even then, only 15 are 9's.
  • MapleleafMapleleaf Posts: 506 ✭
    Gretzky Rookie 79 OPC - 1 PSA 10/2803 graded
    Bobby Orr 66 Topps - 1 PSA 9/449 graded
    Bobby Hull 58 Topps - 2 PSA 9/253 graded
    Gordie Howe 51 Parkhurst - 1 PSA 9/332 graded
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    I was thinking along the lines of PSA 9's. PSA 10's inherently will be difficult across the board

    1971 Munson is a GREAT one 4 out of 1540 .25% compared to 6,300 out of 212,000-3%
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  • mygottamygotta Posts: 1,652
    What is considered difficult? 1 out 10? 1 out of 1000? I mean, there are some cards that seem to have a low PSA 10 population, but only relative to their number of submissions. For instance, looking through the 1985 set, only 21 Cal Ripken's are slabbed a PSA 10 and thats out of 702. That would be 3% of the total amount are graded a 10, three out of every 100.
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>
    1969 Topps Lou Brock 4 PSA 9's out of 569-less than 1%. The 1969 set as a whole is 15% PSA 9 or higher
    1976 Topps George Brett 10 PSA 9's out of 1240 less than 1%. The 1976 set gives you over 40% PSA 9 or higher
    1986 Topps Steve Young 70 out of 4,272 almost 2%. The set is at 30% >>


    I dont disagree with the concept, but do remember, that most of the rest of the set is only submitted when high grade. Rookies/Stars like this tend to have more low grade submissions due to there generally collectivity since they are rookies. >>



    Good point, but looking at the '69 Brock as an example, look at the other big names Reggie, Aaron, Rollie Fingers, Nolan Ryan, Rose, etc are all much higher percentages of 9's. Seaver is also a tough one in that set 15 out of 1,587 less than 1% as well!
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  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1973 Yaz and Morgan >>



    That 1973 Yaz is freaking impossible. I would bet that all the PSA 9's that exist are OC on the back. The one I owned for awhile was almost miscut on the back.

    1973 Carl Yastrzemski Topps is 19 PSA 9's (no 10's) out of 509 submitted (3.7%). Not sure what the set average is.
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  • MintMoondogMintMoondog Posts: 969 ✭
    1970 AS cards are crazy difficult to find centered:
    459 Jackson pop4 out of 359,
    462 Aaron pop 3 out of 369,
    464 Bench pop 4 out of 212
    75 Minis - GET IN MY BELLY!
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭
    The 1997-98 Masters gold foil Tiger Woods. No 10s.
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  • stormtrooper80stormtrooper80 Posts: 317
    Hulk Hogan's 1982 card is very tough
  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭✭
    In PSA 9 all these are tough

    1971 #300 Brooks Robinson now pop 6 I think
    1971 #100 Pete Rose
    1971 #20 Reggie Jackson
    1971 #709 Baylor/ Baker RC
    1970 #458 Pete Rose AS
    1970 #455 Brooks Robinson AS
    1969 #480 Tom Seaver
    1957 #1 Ted Williams

    And in PSA 8 how about 1962 #350 Frank Robinson?


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  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    1893 Just So Cy Young
    1909 Cabanas Pete Hill
    1910 Punch Ty Cobb
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  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭
    77 Yount is very tough in 9 or 10. 33 9's and 1 10 (which just sold on ebay for 1000 or so)
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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1893 Just So Cy Young
    1909 Cabanas Pete Hill
    1910 Punch Ty Cobb
    ...
    the top of the list image >>



    The Young is not more difficult in high grade than the Burkett from that set. image

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  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1982 Wrestling All Stars Series A Pop Report


    The Hulk Hogan card is very tough for sure but the Andre The Giant is even more difficult.

    There are 14 PSA 8's and 2 PSA 9's with no 10's at this point.


  • vettfanaticvettfanatic Posts: 643 ✭✭✭
    1977 Topps Robn Yount. Only one PSA 10 graded.
    1979 Topps Paul Molitor. No 10's

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  • TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496 ✭
    What about the '55 Topps Duke Snider in PSA 9? I don't think I've ever seen the card auctioned....out of all the mastro catalogs, memory lane, robert edward auctions of the last 10-12 years.

    And some of the 33 Goudey Ruths in PSA 9. The #53 Ruth, I dont think I've ever seen that in mint 9.
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