best case for a 5 year hold?

miklia

Hey gang. I'm starting to see a real generational shift going on here, with some new peeps getting back in to the market. Taken with the craziness that these group rips continue to inspire, I've been thinking of putting a few cases away for maybe 5 years and selling after they've dried up a bit to satisfy the ripping fanatics. Thinking of product that is under $100/box now but might pop a bit as people get interested in more nostaliga rips from the early to mid 1990s. In no particular order, I'm thinking of choosing between:

1987 Topps Football
1989 Upper Deck Lo
1990 Leaf Series II
1992-93 Basketball series II (any)
1991 Stadium Club Football or Baseball

What does everyone here like?

brianwintersfan

I would go with 1989 UD low

billwaltonsbeard

If you can get a sealed case of 89 UD low, I'd agree. Otherwise 87 Topps FB

RookieWax

I think you will have a tough finding a case of any of those. Keep us posted if you have any luck in doing so.

Planemonkey

Baseball
1992 Fleer Baseball Cello Case
1991 Stadium Club series 1
1992 Upper Deck Minors
1987 Leaf
1991 Leaf Series 2
1993 Select Hobby
1993 Select Update
1992 Donruss Rookies


Hockey
1990 UD French Hi
1990 OPC Premier
1989 OPC

Basketball
1990 Fleer Cello
1989 Hoops 1

NickM

I would stay away from 1991 Stadium Club. The cards stick together badly.

Nick

Planemonkey

Fergie23 seems to do pretty well on the 1991 Stadium Club Football. I opened a case of 1993 leaf and they were sticking together, but the freezer seemed to loosen them up.

BenG76

I would go with 88 Donruss or 89 Topps. Those will be gone in five years for sure.

mygotta

<< <i>I would go with 88 Donruss or 89 Topps. Those will be gone in five years for sure. >>



55 years to be more accurate

I would say the 87 Topps FB would be nice in 5 years.

Davemri

I know you said older but I would think 2012 Topps Chrome football would be a good one to sit on for a while.

BenG76

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<< <i>I would go with 88 Donruss or 89 Topps. Those will be gone in five years for sure. >>



55 years to be more accurate

I would say the 87 Topps FB would be nice in 5 years. >>



It may take more than 55 years. LOL

76collector

Best case for a 5 year hold was pre-84 topps baseball, 5 years ago.

Obviously hindsight is 20-20 but it looks to me like the card market has gotten a lot hotter in the past few years than it has been for a while. Many registry chasers looking for a way to land a gem mint 10. I think it will be tough to find a case of anything that either has a hof rookie or a future hall of fame rookie at a decent price now.

Good luck though, and if you can find it I would say 89 ud low.

CDsNuts

I would honestly say none of them are good 5 year investments. The reason for the increase in pre-1984 wax is the PSA registry and hunt for low pop 10s. You're not going to find any in the products you listed, and it's doubtful any of those sets completed in PSA 10 would go for more than the cost of grading.

I would shy away from the condition-sensitive HOF RC angle and look at the highly collected insert angle. Obviously 93 Finest baseball is out of the question, but maybe something like 1996 Bowman's Best FB or 1994 SP football (holoviews plus Faulk foil RC). Or 93-94 Finest basketball for refractors. Or some of the Pacific FB stuff from the late 1990s-early 2000s with a million numbered inserts of key RCs.

Lee

miklia

thanks guys, lots of good ideas here and good points in particular lee. as a minor counter, the idea (and selection) was more grounded in hazarding a guess that the 'nostalgia rip' scene is going to get bigger than the 'low pop common' scene as guys who came of age from 85-95 start having more expendable income. ripping just for the sake of ripping, as it were...

and i obviously forgot collector's edge. only 100,000 of each player! what could possibly go wrong? nothing went farther if you wanted to throw a card though. not even close.

CDsNuts

True, I could see stuff like 89 UD and 90 Leaf having that 'those were the days' feel for people to rip. I can't see them blowing up like, say, 80 Topps basketball or 86 Topps football wax, but they are probably safe in that you won't lose money on the purchase.

elsnorto

<< <i>I know you said older but I would think 2012 Topps Chrome football would be a good one to sit on for a while. >>



Or maybe not.

Signed;

1999 Topps Chrome Football

(BCC: Donovan McNabb, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Edgerrin James, Ricky Williams, Torry Holt, David Boston, & Troy Edwards.)

Snorto~

Yankees001

I hear the following cards are running low already:

1988 Donruss/Topps Baseball
1990 Donruss Baseball
1990 Fleer Baseball

1990 Proset Football

I'm glad I could help.

Dave

miklia

hey, don't knock that 90 proset! the series two is a crazy fun junk rip, esp with the chance at the errors. 89 proset might be a case candidate though...

handyman

What about
1983 Football Wax case
1984 topps Baseball Wax case

Dodgerfanjohn

<< <i>What about
1983 Football Wax case
1984 topps Baseball Wax case >>



Doesn't 84 topps baseball suffer from

-overproduction(there's a lot out there and it's super cheap)
-lack of a HOF rookie.

It's got Mattingly an Strawberry...both NY players so it won't quite suffer the fate of the 1981 set(Gibson, Baines, Valenzuela as the only rookies of note) but it also doesn't suffer the condition issues whatsoever. So I don't see how it will rise in value. You can pick up vending for $10-15, wax for $35-45, and cello box for $45-55. Even rack boxes are right around $60 on eBay.

Exacerbating the matter is its the first time a set other than Topps is more desirable, and both the 83 and 85 set have three critical and popular rookie cards.

So pretty meh.

handyman

Yeah I do agree whit all that you said. But It does seem a bit undervalued even with all that ou said. I can only see it going up with time and not down. Its very affordable right now.

RookieWax

<< <i>...89 proset might be a case candidate though... >>



Yes, 1989 Pro Set (series 2) is a perfect example of what can happen with a perceived "junk" wax box that has hall-of-fame rookies. Two years ago that was a $6 box. Today, they usually sell for $18 to $25.

Mapleleaf

What about 87 Wrestlemania III? I don't collect it but just wondering if it will go up like the 85's.

mygotta

For a cheap pick, I might consider 86 Topps baseball. No HOF rookies in the set (or any really), but lots of star power, second years, Pete Rose dedication (ala Aaron in '74), etc. The black borders are challenging for mint grades. It does suffer from over production, but I am not seeing them in the same quantities as 87.

ChiefsFan1st

Its probably newer than you have in mind, but in 5-10 years it should have good
hof potential 04 bowman football

handyman

What about set cases?
1986 Topps Tradded Set case.

miklia

nice. i like the 83 FB and 86 BB thoughts in particular. I'm not as big on set cases, simply because the ripping isn't quite as fun.

RookieWax

Milkia....any decisions yet?

Cakes

<< <i>Hey gang. I'm starting to see a real generational shift going on here, with some new peeps getting back in to the market. Taken with the craziness that these group rips continue to inspire, I've been thinking of putting a few cases away for maybe 5 years and selling after they've dried up a bit to satisfy the ripping fanatics. Thinking of product that is under $100/box now but might pop a bit as people get interested in more nostaliga rips from the early to mid 1990s. In no particular order, I'm thinking of choosing between:

1987 Topps Football
1989 Upper Deck Lo
1990 Leaf Series II
1992-93 Basketball series II (any)
1991 Stadium Club Football or Baseball

What does everyone here like? >>



Great thread, could you please do another without the low limit, say $500 a box?

miklia

<< <i>Milkia....any decisions yet? >>



working out deals on a couple of things, actually. will let you guys know when they're in hand!

in terms of higher end boxes, this thread could also be tweaked to say something like 'best potential unopened investment for under $1,000'. then case, box, pack, it's all good.

76collector

For a cheap pick, I might consider 86 Topps baseball. No HOF rookies in the set (or any really), but lots of star power, second years, Pete Rose dedication (ala Aaron in '74), etc. The black borders are challenging for mint grades. It does suffer from over production, but I am not seeing them in the same quantities as 87
+1

And I would also add, a lot of people started collecting more heavily around this time, and they can be picked up at a discount due to the lack of a big name rookie. Not sure these have a HUGE upside, but I think with how cheap they can be picked up they might have the ability to run up a bit, as nostalgia rips happen, and availability of earlier years dries up.

Archaninator

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