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1853 Seated Half Dollar- contemporary counterfeit/cut to make change?

NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
This is the coin I was trying to determine if it was real or an older counterfeit in this thread Link. I bought it thinking it was cut to make change. Also looks to have an older cut mark on the reverse to test for silver.

Seller noted: "Offered here is an old copy of a U.S. seated liberty half dollar. It was found metal detecting in a very old park with many original coins from this period so I assume it was made around the date of the coin. It is broken obviously but perhaps it has some interesting study value to someone. Not sure what it's made off. Some type of white metal."

It came from Canada. Payed less than ten bucks, so took a shot. What you all think? Old fake? Real but corroded? Cut to make change or just broke some how?

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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    Very much a lead counterfeit; still interesting though!
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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone think it just broke or was cut? Still puzzled.
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It looks like a cast lead counterfeit.

    My guess is that it was cut apart at some point because it was a counterfeit.
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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Defaced counterfeit, cut to make it unusable.

    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kinda neat.

    PS- with the metal detecting story and the fact it cost less than ten bucks, it's really neat.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,292 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks like a cast lead counterfeit.

    My guess is that it was cut apart at some point because it was a counterfeit. >>



    That was my thought, to get it out of circulation.
    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,051 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks like a cast lead counterfeit.

    My guess is that it was cut apart at some point because it was a counterfeit. >>



    I didn't think about that scenerioimage

    That does sound like the best explanation for what happened to it. Cool! Now my 1861 contemporary conterfeit seated quarter has a friend to hangout with. lol
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    MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    My comments in the original OP, to conduct a specific gravity test, would seem a bit unnecessary in this case. After seeing the images of the piece I would concur with the others, that the piece is an obvious counterfeit, of lead or some other off metal. Interesting, but not genuine.
    They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a contemporary piece.

    Nice pickup
    Frank

    BHNC #203

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