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Most times resubbing until you got a bump.

What is the most times that you resubbed the same card until you achieved the desired bump? I have 2 PSA 5's that I cannot locate any slight wrinkle and that look otherwise 7/8 all day. In one case, the "value" would jump about but $50 and in te other case it would jump about $150. Any suggestions?

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  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    I've never been a big fan of the crack/resub game, but I sub a super nice 1986 Fleer Checklist a total of 3 times.

    EOT, 8, and finally 9.

    Just do the math and see if it's worth the effort.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,126 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably three times is the most I've sub'd a card for a bump.

    I have two with multiple subs that are going in again. One is a '71 Shellenback that is probably gone in 6-7 times and keeps getting rejected for min size. Another is a '73 Palmer that has gone in 3 times and came back 8 each time. Still can't figure out why it won't 9 or even 8.5.
  • bcubsbcubs Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
    I haven't resubbed for a bump before but I have submitted a card that 2X came back min size. I put it up against other cards and it matches right up, don't know how it keeps coming back min size. I just sent it again today in a small group of 40 hoping for a grade. At least with min size I'm not paying again as I get a voucher. If it doesn't hit a grade this time I guess I'll just put it in the dead cards pile.

    Appreciate today-

    Bill

  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I haven't resubbed for a bump before but I have submitted a card that 2X came back min size. I put it up against other cards and it matches right up, don't know how it keeps coming back min size. I just sent it again today in a small group of 40 hoping for a grade. At least with min size I'm not paying again as I get a voucher. If it doesn't hit a grade this time I guess I'll just put it in the dead cards pile. >>



    I had four cards from the 1978 OPC set (2-Ryan & 2-Murray) that I subbed twice and both times they came back MinSizeReq, so I sold them on ebay WITH the PSA rejected labels. That way they don't die on my shelf and the buyer knows what they're getting.
  • Subbed a 1960 Topps Mays 4 times. PSA 6 crackout. EOT to PSA 7 to EOT to PSA 8. It was worth the trouble.
  • Afternoon,

    Conducted an actual experiment a few years back posted the results here, don't remember exactly, but it went something like this:

    1953 Topps Who-Z-At Star bought in PSA NM 7 cracked and 7, 6, 8, 7, 6, 8, 7, 8.5.... or something like that, I know I sub'd that darn card near 8-10 times!image I still have the card in my set and it still is head a shoulders above the only MINT 9 I have, and better than all 4 ever given for this set!!! (I've seen all four of them)

    Neil
    Actually Collect Non Sport, but am just so full of myself I post all over the place !!!!!!!
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    when the goddess i call my wife was still just an acquaintance, it took several attempts to coax her away from the schlepp she was dating at the time.

    i did finally get that bump. image
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    I've had a 9 go from a 9 to a 9, to a min size req, to a 10 before. I've also had the superior intellect to resub a 5 four different times, garnering a 5 in return each time.
  • epatmythesepatmythes Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭
    I've cracked and resubbed a ton of cards... but only twice do a I recall ever doing it more than once...

    1) A very desirable autographed card that I really wanted to be in a 9 holder

    8, 8.5, 8.5 (3 tries was enough)

    2) A card I truly felt was a 10, but would have been satisfied with a 9

    MIN SIZE, EOT, 8.5, MIN SIZE, 10
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hate reading threads like this and seeing these results.

    I know grading is subjective as they say but I feel under no circumstances should there be so much variance in the grades.

    When a PSA 6 goes to an 8.5 or even worse a PSA 7 goes to a PSA 10 there is no excuse in my book.



  • << <i>I hate reading threads like this and seeing these results.

    I know grading is subjective as they say but I feel under no circumstances should there be so much variance in the grades.

    When a PSA 6 goes to an 8.5 or even worse a PSA 7 goes to a PSA 10 there is no excuse in my book. >>



    I love it...Gives me a good laugh.

    Let me also add, that outside of EOT designations, I will not play the crack and submit game just yet.
  • seablasterseablaster Posts: 188 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I hate reading threads like this and seeing these results.

    I know grading is subjective as they say but I feel under no circumstances should there be so much variance in the grades.

    When a PSA 6 goes to an 8.5 or even worse a PSA 7 goes to a PSA 10 there is no excuse in my book. >>



    Definitely not reassuring to say the least.

    Makes one question the value of TPG in general, irrespective of the company.

    Collecting low grade cards is looking more and more appealing.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>I hate reading threads like this and seeing these results.

    I know grading is subjective as they say but I feel under no circumstances should there be so much variance in the grades.

    When a PSA 6 goes to an 8.5 or even worse a PSA 7 goes to a PSA 10 there is no excuse in my book. >>



    Sure there's an excuse- the graders are doing their best, and they can't be held responsible for the grade that someone else assigned.


    The problem isn't with the graders ,or even with the company- it's with the scale. As soon as everyone gets that we'll stop seeing these eye-watering prices for cards in premium holders.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I cracked out a psa 7 73 Ryan that I knew was undergraded and it came back a 9. As someone mentioned, it really depends on the card and the value for the bump.

    Grading is always going to vary as long as humans are doing the grading. You just have to look at any "what will it grade" thread on this board to see the variance
    inherent in such an enterprise as opinions in grade will often vary 2 and even 3 grades. It's just the way it is and the sooner you accept that, the better off you
    will be.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    Only resubbed two cards.
    First one was EOT, then a 5.
    Second one was a 6, 3,3,3,7.
    Talked to a dealer at the National once, he said he'd resub up to a dozen times to get the grade he knew a card deserved.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I hate reading threads like this and seeing these results.

    I know grading is subjective as they say but I feel under no circumstances should there be so much variance in the grades.

    When a PSA 6 goes to an 8.5 or even worse a PSA 7 goes to a PSA 10 there is no excuse in my book. >>



    Definitely not reassuring to say the least.

    Makes one question the value of TPG in general, irrespective of the company.

    Collecting low grade cards is looking more and more appealing. >>



    It depends on what you're using the TPG for. If you're looking to make sure your card isn't counterfeit, and to get a general idea of the card's condition, then TPG's are fantastic. If you're looking for something else then you might sometimes find yourself disappointed.
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