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"+" Pricing

erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
Since the plus has been out a while now, what has it done to the pricing for classic coins?

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In general, the premium for + coins tends to be much smaller than I expected would happen. That's not to say there aren't some big premiums out there, but they are mostly for coins we all expected to have them -- things where the price gap between one grade and the next is truly massive.
    When in doubt, don't.
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    kookoox10kookoox10 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭
    The pricing for + coins carry no where near the premium as "star" designated examples do. They're really no different than their non-+ graded examples as far as money goes.
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    I agree that the + (plus) does not add that large of a premium as a * (star) does. I all ways thought that
    the + means the coin is a tad better than the posted grade but a * to mean the coin is a more desirable
    one with enhancements to the surface like color or proof qualities. I bought several 1879 S Morgans at
    FUN last month in MS 65 + and several in MS 65 * with the stars slightly higher. Then I bought two in
    MS 65 + * coins that where very reasonably priced but still higher than the others. As usual, a plus or
    a star and even the plus / star value is in the eye of the buyer. Sellers of a plus coin will want a higher
    price but I see alot of them not selling at auction.

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    TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    My experience has been somewhat different, especially in cases where the + separates a large number pop into a top 3 or 4 for the date.

    See the pops for the 1811 sm 8 CBH. One 64+, then only 3 higher in 65, 66, and 67.

    There could have been a premium for the coin without the +, but it is just about guaranteed with it.

    Not as much where there are multiple coins higher--a 63+ will not garner much premium if there are 20 coins graded 64 and 65.
    TahoeDale
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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my experience, dealers place a big premium on them but they don't command much when it's time to sell them. image

    Still, I like them, and one of my favorites is a coin with a plus (and maybe a sticker) in a series where the next grade up is a huge increase in price. A good example would be a 1923-S Peace Dollar. These are available for $500-600 in 64+ but a "C" coin in a 65 gem holder will sell for almost $4k.
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    As my learned friend, TahoeDale mentioned, I think
    it all depends on the POP's above it.

    Let say coin X sells for $100 in MS 64 ( POP of 100 )
    and the same date in MS 65 ( POP of 6 ) sells for $2,500.
    and there are 3 in MS 66, and one in MS 68 with zero finer.
    I would think that a 64+ ( POP 2 ) would command a hefty
    premium. I would venture to say it could get many multiples
    of the MS 64 price.

    It's all in the POP's, Doc.


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    lusterloverlusterlover Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As my learned friend, TahoeDale mentioned, I think
    it all depends on the POP's above it.

    Let say coin X sells for $100 in MS 64 ( POP of 100 )
    and the same date in MS 65 ( POP of 6 ) sells for $2,500.
    and there are 3 in MS 66, and one in MS 68 with zero finer.
    I would think that a 64+ ( POP 2 ) would command a hefty
    premium. I would venture to say it could get many multiples
    of the MS 64 price.

    It's all in the POP's, Doc. >>



    +1 (no pun intended)

    When you're dealing with the condition rarities where the pops get thinner, the + is significant. Differentiating what is high-end for the grade with a plus is a lot more helpful than differentiating what is supposedly more eye-appealing with a *.
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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've seen + designations bring big premiums !!!
    Timbuk3
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    + can be a big deal when there's a big spread in prices between the slab grade and the next grade up.
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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,918 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DennisH and SeattleSlammer

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    mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I go out of my way to buy PCGS graded Plus coins in any series I collect. What more can I say?
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.

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